school...this fall

[Schism]

No, actually show me science that says that. You also need to consider the strain the information is related to, if most children simply are not exhibiting symptoms... it's just not as simple as you may like to make it.

A Brown University study with 25,000 kids is science.

A study from Austria sited in the scientific journal Nature, one of, if not the most prestigious scientific journals in the world.

COVID-19 in educational settings | NCIRS

www.ncirs.org.au

Summary of findings

• In NSW, from March to mid-April 2020, 18 individuals (9 students and 9 staff) from 15 schools were confirmed as COVID-19 cases; all of these individuals had an opportunity to transmit the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2) to others in their schools.
• 735 students and 128 staff were close contacts of these initial 18 cases.
• One child from a primary school and one child from a high school may have contracted COVID-19 from the initial cases at their schools.
• No teacher or staff member contracted COVID-19 from any of the initial school cases.

From a Nature article on Covid and kids:

Few studies exist of transmission from schools to the broader community, but an Australian report from an ongoing investigation suggests that it’s limited, and much lower than with other respiratory viruses, such as influenza.

 

[tdhanses]

Kids need to be back in school or all teachers need to be laid off with no guarantee of a job. Personally if school is canceled this could be the end of public schools as we know it, it will change and I’ll look at other options. If teachers don’t feel safe let someone else take your job that feels safe with proper precautions. Ok, flame away but I’m just tired of this, kids need school, this isn’t a frontline job in the thick of Covid like our healthcare workers.

 

[307]

Agree. Every job has risks. Teaching is no different.

 

[Whitetaildown215]

People say we need to go to distant learning, and how teachers post lessons on the internet. What about those that don’t have internet? Or single parents that work one or 2 jobs to provide for their kids and internet isn’t on their priority list? Or people in rural areas that can’t get internet except for through a phone? I am lucky enough there are 2 of us working in our home and yes we have internet however it is satellite internet and it may take 10-15 minutes to buffer to play a 10 minute lesson. We live a half mile out of the city limits and can’t get anything else. We tried watching an hour long show with it once, at the 2 hour mark when we were 30 minutes in we gave up. I’m not saying we should be in school and not saying we should be out because either way it’s going to be a screwed up mess this year.

 

[Fatcamp]

LOL. When I did my internship with Headstart we were dealing with kids who couldn't open a carton of milk or zip their coats.

There are millions of kids with special needs that fall further and further behind every day this goes on. Gonna lose a whole generation if we are not careful.

 

[String&stick]

Kids need to be back in school or all teachers need to be laid off with no guarantee of a job. Personally if school is canceled this could be the end of public schools as we know it, it will change and I’ll look at other options. If teachers don’t feel safe let someone else take your job that feels safe with proper precautions. Ok, flame away but I’m just tired of this, kids need school, this isn’t a frontline job in the thick of Covid like our healthcare workers.

Kids need to be back in school or all teachers need to be laid off with no guarantee of a job. Personally if school is canceled this could be the end of public schools as we know it, it will change and I’ll look at other options. If teachers don’t feel safe let someone else take your job that feels safe with proper precautions. Ok, flame away but I’m just tired of this, kids need school, this isn’t a frontline job in the thick of Covid like our healthcare workers.

Already a shortage of qualified teachers many places, you don't exactly have a huge pool of people lined up ready to fill positions. Unless of course you want to hire people who don't have an education degree. . . Then by all means have a great time under serving 80% of kids out there. Teaching isn't as easy as many people assume and especially when you start dealing with special Ed,and severe and profound kids.

Teachers are contract workers with unions so it would be damn near impossible to lay them off most places (as it should be).

Also are you of the opinion that any business that the gov shuts down, should receive no funds (ppp loans, eidl grants) and should also not try to retain any employees if possible??? Pretty harsh stance.

Public education is the best education hands down, it needs to be protected and maintained.

My $.02

 

[Baddog]

Already a shortage of qualified teachers many places, you don't exactly have a huge pool of people lined up ready to fill positions. Unless of course you want to hire people who don't have an education degree. . . Then by all means have a great time under serving 80% of kids out there. Teaching isn't as easy as many people assume and especially when you start dealing with special Ed,and severe and profound kids.

Teachers are contract workers with unions so it would be damn near impossible to lay them off most places (as it should be).

Also are you of the opinion that any business that the gov shuts down, should receive no funds (ppp loans, eidl grants) and should also not try to retain any employees if possible??? Pretty harsh stance.

Public education is the best education hands down, it needs to be protected and maintained.

My $.02

Ive always wondered if sending a young adult to college for 4-5 years and then saying “yep you are ready to teach”! Is the best model. Especially high school and above. Maybe find someone who has worked in the field and actually accomplished something in life to do the “teaching”.

 

[qwerksc]

society system failure.

 

[qwerksc]

Everything will be back to normal...Never

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I hope schools stay closed so all the POS parents that treat teachers like babysitters get an even larger dose of their own bullshit.

 

[Fatcamp]

I hope schools stay closed so all the POS parents that treat teachers like babysitters get an even larger dose of their own bullshit.

Ya, the only problem with that is the kids will be an even larger burden if they don't have some positive influence in their lives.

If the parents didn't care before they won't care now.

 

[jmez]

No reason to punish children.

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[Rob5589]

I hope schools stay closed so all the POS parents that treat teachers like babysitters get an even larger dose of their own bullshit.

There are plenty of teachers saying that exact thing. But here's the deal; kids go to school during the day, just as most people work during the day. So sort of by default, the teachers become the "guardians," if you will, during that time. And many parents count on that school time so they can work. For teachers to complain about it now, after hundreds years of doing it that way, is ridiculous.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

There are plenty of teachers saying that exact thing. But here's the deal; kids go to school during the day, just as most people work during the day. So sort of by default, the teachers become the "guardians," if you will, during that time. And many parents count on that school time so they can work. For teachers to complain about it now, after hundreds years of doing it that way, is ridiculous.

I’m sure teachers have been complaining about this exact same thing for hundreds of years, but over time the teachers were stripped of the ability to actually discipline little shit heels when needed.

 

[Rob5589]

I’m sure teachers have been complaining about this exact same thing for hundreds of years, but over time the teachers were stripped of the ability to actually discipline little shit heels when needed.

Absolutely

 

[timmymac24]

If discipline happened at home it wouldn't be needed often at school. Before jumping on the "just home school" concept consider what a lot kids live in/with for "home". Do some home visits or parent conferences and it's pretty obvious for a high percentage of kids that their time spent in the classroom at school is a vast improvement over their so called home. They know what's going on in a routine setting for 180 days or so a year and usually by the hour. The same can't be said about their other home. Education is far from perfect but the same could be said about many aspects of our society and country today. I'm all ears on how to fix the system....

 

[downthepipe]

I have 4 kids all school age. We are in Boise public schools. We were given the option to sign up for online school this fall through the district but we will be sending our kids come August 17. We have spoken with a few teachers at the school and they are calm and cool and preparing their classrooms and their planning how to keep areas clean and keep masks on their kids. IMO Masks will be a nightmare at the junior high level socially and for elementary school kids may be a big germ spreader until the kids adjust which will take 3 weeks I bet. We expect there will be bumps in the road: the biggest bump will be when a teacher over age 50 contracts the virus. If a child, child’s family, teacher, admin folks test positive, who quarantines? Do they bring in a sub? S chool administrators are paid to plan and I know they are working overtime right now. Our kids need school for so many reasons and we are going to try and help make it succeed.

 

[Whitetaildown215]

I’m sure teachers have been complaining about this exact same thing for hundreds of years, but over time the teachers were stripped of the ability to actually discipline little shit heels when needed.

And it shows in these new age college kids.

 

[KurtR]

I hope schools stay closed so all the POS parents that treat teachers like babysitters get an even larger dose of their own bullshit.

It doesnt work that way a piece of shit parent will be one regardless of if their kid is home or not. Distance learning didnt work for my kid. What i can teach him is being respectful and listening in class which they say he does but it is a sinking feeling knowing you cant help him in the reading and writing part

 

[Wrench]

I live in a school district that's 40x60 miles and has +/- 450 kids total. You wouldn't even know covid existed if you never left our area. Kids have been playing together, and teachers come to the park to meet with the kids. There's probably less than 5 mask wearing folk a day in our town and we've had 3 cases total in our entire county, 2 of which were people self isolating from Seattle to their lake homes.

We are trapped in Jay inslee's grip of school regulations, but the buy in here is in low single digits.