S2H winter class 2026 observations and lessons learned

Here’s a dumb question: do y’all send out a recommended packing list to folks who sign up for this class? Or, if someone from not the mountains signs up, are they just destined to learn what doesn’t work the hard way? I’ve hunted real cold weather (i.e. 0 or lower) and snow exactly three times. Two of those were in the mountains. But in none of them did I have to be out in that cold all day. I don’t think I would know what to keep and what to replace. Just curious. Really interesting thread.
 
Here’s a dumb question: do y’all send out a recommended packing list to folks who sign up for this class?


Haha. Well, yes. However this class they got screwed and they didn’t get it. But, they had a video meeting and asked what they needed.

But yes- there is a suggested packing list.



Or, if someone from not the mountains signs up, are they just destined to learn what doesn’t work the hard way?


There is real value in that. grin.



I’ve hunted real cold weather (i.e. 0 or lower) and snow exactly three times. Two of those were in the mountains. But in none of them did I have to be out in that cold all day. I don’t think I would know what to keep and what to replace. Just curious. Really interesting thread.


Wouldn’t be a problem at all.
 
I dig them. The flush fit ones are as flush as functionally they can be.
Yeah the 223 one I couldn’t fit 3rds truly flush but it didn’t take much protrusion of the mag from the bottom metal to make it fit 3. The larger calibers flush variant have no protrusion but only fit 2rds. 2rds capacity isn’t gonna appeal to everyone by any means but some folks were interested so I made it. The 3rd 223 seems like a sweet spot for those than can hunt with 223.
 
Yeah the 223 one I couldn’t fit 3rds truly flush but it didn’t take much protrusion of the mag from the bottom metal to make it fit 3. The larger calibers flush variant have no protrusion but only fit 2rds. 2rds capacity isn’t gonna appeal to everyone by any means but some folks were interested so I made it. The 3rd 223 seems like a sweet spot for those than can hunt with 223.

Awesome product development there. What would it take to get higher cap ones, for range days, etc?
 
I have been trying to get a purpose built puffy jacket made for years. @Ryan Avery and I have been working with a company for over a year now, and we had 5 proto jackets to be used for the class- 1x gen 1, and 4x gen 2’s.

The jackets designed as they should be- cut long in front and back with a long tail, made specifically to go over a bino harness and allow access to it, kangaroo pocket on front for hands, real hood that stays in place, etc.
Is that a double zipper to allow access to bino pouch? If so ... genius.
 
I dig them. The flush fit ones are as flush as functionally they can be.


223, 3 and 4 rounders-
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223 3 round.
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4 round-
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Scope rings/mounts used? UM? Any issues with clearance on bolt? And that scope looks really, really low…like bell almost touching?
I have a few of the S2H scopes ordered and was wondering about ring heights needed for different barrel profiles…ie. std TIKKA vs RT vs SENDERO.
 
@Formidilosus

Just checking on why the Blaser R8 was only used for “a little bit”. Wondering if there is anything I need to be paying extra attention to in adverse conditions.
 
Need to add that. Most 223’s were either Mamba, Waters or NDR. The last couple of days there were 5-6 of @pods8 (Rugged Stitching) mags used in 223 and 6XC. They worked very well, with no issues that I saw at all. Need to see how they do in the summer and sand/dust.
Good to know, for the info.
As you guys are putting these guns to work in hunting situations and finding the weak links im surprised you don’t use the smaller mags mostly and run thru mag changing scenarios.Or are you all hunting with the larger mags for the most part.
 
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