RokStok

[CzarDonic]

Has anyone tried the Atlasworxs long action DBM in a Tikka Rokstock? If so, any recommendations about magazines, modifications, etc?

 

[atmat]

Nobody at UM works on the suppressors.

I have no dog in this conversation, nor beef with UM. I’ve said so many times that I’m grateful for their investment in our community. I’ve even joked that they should charge us more for the grumbling (a reverse ROK10 if you will).

But isn’t this statement a little misleading? My assumption is that Jake owns both Unknown Munitions and Unknown Suppressors. So even if they’re two different business entities and staff teams, they’re still owned/managed/overseen by the same person — and ultimately the buck stops with the owner. I think that’s roughly what people are referring to when they say they’re worried about “UM” being spread thin and QC/delivery slipping. It’s tough to manage and ensure quality with multiple different businesses, in the same way it’s tough to do so with multiple projects in the same business.

 

[regulator795]

I sent you guys a pm, so we don't clog up this thread.

please share with me too

 

[Zork]

I'm probably going to post a DIY lefty Bravo for sale soon. Haven't taken pictures yet but can be pm'd if interested.

 

[SouthPaw]

please share with me too

Find someone with a mill machine. Mark with sharpie, cut. Takes just a few minutes.

 

[Ryan Avery]

I have no dog in this conversation, nor beef with UM. I’ve said so many times that I’m grateful for their investment in our community. I’ve even joked that they should charge us more for the grumbling (a reverse ROK10 if you will).

But isn’t this statement a little misleading? My assumption is that Jake owns both Unknown Munitions and Unknown Suppressors. So even if they’re two different business entities and staff teams, they’re still owned/managed/overseen by the same person — and ultimately the buck stops with the owner. I think that’s roughly what people are referring to when they say they’re worried about “UM” being spread thin and QC/delivery slipping. It’s tough to manage and ensure quality with multiple different businesses, in the same way it’s tough to do so with multiple projects in the same business.

I can see your point, but I don't like speaking for people, so I will keep it short.

Jake nor any UM employee will be involved with the day-to-day operations of suppressors.

Cliff is running the suppressor company, and SRS is doing the finishing work. Cliff and a few of the suppressors will be at the UM booth at the western hunting expo if you have questions for him.

Being spread too thin at the top is not the issue; getting and keeping good employees is. This is an issue in our city and the biggest cities in America.

 

[Alpha Echo]

I can see your point, but I don't like speaking for people, so I will keep it short.

Jake nor any UM employee will be involved with the day-to-day operations of suppressors.

Cliff is running the suppressor company, and SRS is doing the finishing work. Cliff and a few of the suppressors will be at the UM booth at the western hunting expo if you have questions for him.

Being spread too thin at the top is not the issue; getting and keeping good employees is. This is an issue in our city and the biggest cities in America.

@Ryan Avery 100% it's the quality of the labor pool in the entire country. As the meme goes, and as my hunting buddy likes to say: Hard Times Create Strong Men, Strong Men Create Good Times, Good Times Create Weak Men, Weak Men Create Hard Times

God willing, we'll now be cycling from Weak Mean Create Hard Times back to Hard Times Create Strong Men.

Edit: Here's one version of the meme (note I don't even follow MMA or know who Tim Kennedy is):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1384598161432317959

 

[atmat]

I can see your point, but I don't like speaking for people, so I will keep it short.

Jake nor any UM employee will be involved with the day-to-day operations of suppressors.

Cliff is running the suppressor company, and SRS is doing the finishing work. Cliff and a few of the suppressors will be at the UM booth at the western hunting expo if you have questions for him.

Being spread too thin at the top is not the issue; getting and keeping good employees is. This is an issue in our city and the biggest cities in America.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I still have an order from 12-27-23 outstanding. #178838. I even had it changed from LE green hoping id get it eventually, but id take either just to recover.

 

[Billy Goat]

I still have an order from 12-27-23 outstanding. #178838. I even had it changed from LE green hoping id get it eventually, but id take either just to recover.

I thought the black camo was caught up.

It's possible it got lost in the mix and you will still be getting green, and those are supposed to be at UM today, so maybe only a few weeks.


Or they didn't get all the black caught up, and it's still coming.


Or it got delivered, you never saw shipping notice, and it grew legs and walked off.

FedEx has thrown packages in weird places here, I don't worry about it walking off, but it's an Easter egg hunt to find them.

 

[ChrisAU]

For those who have packages just showing up, was your order updated on the website? Hoping to use that as a backstop, FedEx also loves to put packages on a random house in my neighborhood.

 

[idi1796]

@Unknown Munitions Quick question: Given the limited number of stocks that will become available in the next order window, will there be a limit on how many stocks an individual can order?

 

[MuleyFever]

Regarding Rokstoks, the individual responsible for quality control (QC) was fired a few weeks ago. A new person is now in charge, and an additional set of eyes reviews everything to ensure quality.

Green Rokstoks have been shipped to UM and will arrive on Wednesday.

If everything goes as planned with the back-ordered Rokstoks, UM will open up sales for a limited number of stocks sometime this month.

We all understand that this has been a significant pain in the ass. Thanks for hanging in there.

Ryan, is there any date set for the lite version? Has one been made and a weight confirmed?

Sorry if this was covered. This thread is too big to find anything.

 

[JM151]

Haven’t seen much on the wood Rokstok…..should be some out in the wild as 7/10 are sold. Anybody confirm weight and lead time?

 

[Ferrulewax]

Ryan, is there any date set for the lite version? Has one been made and a weight confirmed?

Sorry if this was covered. This thread is too big to find anything.

From the recent podcast hopefully sometime this year it sounds like

 

[Schmo]

Ryan, is there any date set for the lite version? Has one been made and a weight confirmed?

Sorry if this was covered. This thread is too big to find anything.

It’s still on the wood prototype, and they are going to make some tweaks to it.

 

[Formidilosus]

Haven’t seen much on the wood Rokstok…..should be some out in the wild as 7/10 are sold. Anybody confirm weight and lead time?

It’s a custom wood stock- actual “custom”, someone is hand making them. Lead time is several months, which is silly short in the wood stock world.

Weight is 35’ish ounces- that’s a real 35oz, not a “best case”. There have been versions made that are sub 30oz. I am shooting one that is 27.7oz with a real recoil pad.

The carbon fiber ROKStok is legitimately excellent in design and function- however as I have stated since the very beginning, my goal was to get wood versions made for me. Wood is better at everything save cost, weight, and weather resistance in function. Properly done wood stocks however can correct the weight and weather performance.
I don’t know how to be more candid about this- if someone wants a lifetime quality stock, the wood RokStoks made as they are- are it. One that I have has the most surface level oil finish (read not what a production version would be), has spent days and days in the rain/snow/sleet, 2 weeks in SE Alaska in and around salt water- including being used briefly as a paddle, 4,000+ rounds so far of “my use”, been strapped to a pack/snow machine/atv’s/UTV’s/trailers/; 5 or 6 ice and snow freeze evals, etc. It has never been cleaned or re-oiled and has never lost zero.
I also have a poly finished stock that has nearly the same use, with the same outcome.

I was prepared to pay $3,000 plus for a proper wood stock and wait 2 years. At sub $2,000 and 4-5 months- they are an absolute steal.

 

[Dave_S]

For those who have packages just showing up, was your order updated on the website? Hoping to use that as a backstop, FedEx also loves to put packages on a random house in my neighborhood.

I must not have been signed in when I ordered mine because my order wasn't on my profile on UM's site. Hopefully your neighbors are honest.

Haven't seen it mentioned for a while, but UM low tikka rings are perfect for me.

 

[clperry]

It’s a custom wood stock- actual “custom”, someone is hand making them. Lead time is several months, which is silly short in the wood stock world.

Weight is 35’ish ounces- that’s a real 35oz, not a “best case”. There have been versions made that are sub 30oz. I am shooting one that is 27.7oz with a real recoil pad.

The carbon fiber ROKStok is legitimately excellent in design and function- however as I have stated since the very beginning, my goal was to get wood versions made for me. Wood is better at everything save cost, weight, and weather resistance in function. Properly done wood stocks however can correct the weight and weather performance.
I don’t know how to be more candid about this- if someone wants a lifetime quality stock, the wood RokStoks made as they are- are it. One that I have has the most surface level oil finish (read not what a production version would be), has spent days and days in the rain/snow/sleet, 2 weeks in SE Alaska in and around salt water- including being used briefly as a paddle, 4,000+ rounds so far of “my use”, been strapped to a pack/snow machine/atv’s/UTV’s/trailers/; 5 or 6 ice and snow freeze evals, etc. It has never been cleaned or re-oiled and has never lost zero.
I also have a poly finished stock that has nearly the same use, with the same outcome.

I was prepared to pay $3,000 plus for a proper wood stock and wait 2 years. At sub $2,000 and 4-5 months- they are an absolute steal.

Can they be made for any action as long as he has it in hand to fit it?


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[Formidilosus]

Can they be made for any action as long as he has it in hand to fit it?


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Yes.

Well, “any” is a tall task. However, he is doing one for a Blaser R8 now, and that is anything but simple.