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Has anyone tried the Atlasworxs long action DBM in a Tikka Rokstock? If so, any recommendations about magazines, modifications, etc?
 

atmat

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Nobody at UM works on the suppressors.
I have no dog in this conversation, nor beef with UM. I’ve said so many times that I’m grateful for their investment in our community. I’ve even joked that they should charge us more for the grumbling (a reverse ROK10 if you will).

But isn’t this statement a little misleading? My assumption is that Jake owns both Unknown Munitions and Unknown Suppressors. So even if they’re two different business entities and staff teams, they’re still owned/managed/overseen by the same person — and ultimately the buck stops with the owner. I think that’s roughly what people are referring to when they say they’re worried about “UM” being spread thin and QC/delivery slipping. It’s tough to manage and ensure quality with multiple different businesses, in the same way it’s tough to do so with multiple projects in the same business.
 
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I have no dog in this conversation, nor beef with UM. I’ve said so many times that I’m grateful for their investment in our community. I’ve even joked that they should charge us more for the grumbling (a reverse ROK10 if you will).

But isn’t this statement a little misleading? My assumption is that Jake owns both Unknown Munitions and Unknown Suppressors. So even if they’re two different business entities and staff teams, they’re still owned/managed/overseen by the same person — and ultimately the buck stops with the owner. I think that’s roughly what people are referring to when they say they’re worried about “UM” being spread thin and QC/delivery slipping. It’s tough to manage and ensure quality with multiple different businesses, in the same way it’s tough to do so with multiple projects in the same business.

I can see your point, but I don't like speaking for people, so I will keep it short.

Jake nor any UM employee will be involved with the day-to-day operations of suppressors.

Cliff is running the suppressor company, and SRS is doing the finishing work. Cliff and a few of the suppressors will be at the UM booth at the western hunting expo if you have questions for him.

Being spread too thin at the top is not the issue; getting and keeping good employees is. This is an issue in our city and the biggest cities in America.
 

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I can see your point, but I don't like speaking for people, so I will keep it short.

Jake nor any UM employee will be involved with the day-to-day operations of suppressors.

Cliff is running the suppressor company, and SRS is doing the finishing work. Cliff and a few of the suppressors will be at the UM booth at the western hunting expo if you have questions for him.

Being spread too thin at the top is not the issue; getting and keeping good employees is. This is an issue in our city and the biggest cities in America.
@Ryan Avery 100% it's the quality of the labor pool in the entire country. As the meme goes, and as my hunting buddy likes to say: Hard Times Create Strong Men, Strong Men Create Good Times, Good Times Create Weak Men, Weak Men Create Hard Times

God willing, we'll now be cycling from Weak Mean Create Hard Times back to Hard Times Create Strong Men.

Edit: Here's one version of the meme (note I don't even follow MMA or know who Tim Kennedy is):
 
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atmat

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I can see your point, but I don't like speaking for people, so I will keep it short.

Jake nor any UM employee will be involved with the day-to-day operations of suppressors.

Cliff is running the suppressor company, and SRS is doing the finishing work. Cliff and a few of the suppressors will be at the UM booth at the western hunting expo if you have questions for him.

Being spread too thin at the top is not the issue; getting and keeping good employees is. This is an issue in our city and the biggest cities in America.
Thanks for the clarification!
 
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