Reluctantly Obliging Matt Rinella

[JasonT]

I wear camo because I like it, carryover from when I was a kid I guess.

 

[ODB]

It's interesting to step back and look at the Rinella journey to fame. At the beginning I ABSOLUTELY LOVED listening to and watching Steve. His camo didn't always match, he didn't always harvest animals and he was "hungry". He was very relatable to the average guy out there pursuing their favorite sport.

Today it's a different deal. My son lives in Bozeman where Stone Glacier, Randy Newberg and Steve Rinella reside. There was an event at SG that Steve and Randy attended. Randy was talking to everyone and seemed to enjoy the event. Steve was on his cell phone 1/2 the time and acted like the event was a unpleasant distraction in general. I know this post is about Matt, but I have to believe Steve listens to his brother's work before it hits the internet which to me means he approved his comments before it was posted. Steve is smart and very creative and played his cards well from a financial perspective - but it seems like his humility may have suffered a bit during the process.

For the record - I wear Sitka. I'm 6'4" and don't like wearing cloths that are too short in the sleeve or legs. I did that enough when I was growing up as a kid. Sitka makes cloths for people my size and so far I'm pretty happy with it. No regrets.

Got to go. There's a $15 rebate on a 24 pack of Bud Lite at the local market. My cost will be $3.49 for a 24 pack. I enjoy Bud Light so I might as well go take advantage of their latest marketing move.......

There is no way in hell Steve previews Matt’s podcasts. Unless you are talking about the two times Matt was on the Meateater podcast.

 

[Eastonsgrandpa]

ya know...Fred Bear and others killed an aweful lot of critters close up with a bow in dungarees and a red/black checkered plaid shirt or jacket.....in all kinds of places and conditions. interesting just how important everyone thinks camo and technical clothing is these days. salesmen abound.

That argument is tired. I could care less what pattern is on the clothes or if they have one at all. I use Sitka because it flat out works for me. It’s comfortable and holds up while wicking sweat or keeping me warm. Fred used what was available at the time. When I was a kid we used moon boots, cotton socks, and a wonder bread bag as a waterproof liner. Yep, I made it work. But I’m sure as hell not going back to it.

 

[Idaho_Potato]

My guess is under 1%. It's one thing to do it on a range or in a pasture in summertime, but cold bore hits at 500+ in the mountains is a different story.

I agree as well. The only place people are taking cold bore 500+ yard shots at game in the mountains is on the internet. And most of these people are the type that film everything they do for internet brownie points.

If you are not filming it, why not just move under 400 yards and kill the animal?

 

[87TT]

It is not just Sitka. It is hard to find a brand or company out there that hasn't sold their sole for profit. Camofire/BO, Kryptek, Eastmans etc
Matt Rinella is just a guy and his opinions are his and who cares what he thinks. Make up my own mind and sometimes I have to hold my nose to get what I need.

 

[ddd-shooter]

It is not just Sitka. It is hard to find a brand or company out there that hasn't sold their sole for profit. Camofire/BO, Kryptek, Eastmans etc
Matt Rinella is just a guy and his opinions are his and who cares what he thinks. Make up my own mind and sometimes I have to hold my nose to get what I need.

Love my corrugate foundry pants. Had to hold my nose buying them from first lite.
Tried every other pant, but those were perfect for my needs. I’m not trading them in because y’all don’t like them- or I don’t like first lite business practices.

 

[hunterjmj]

I've got Sitka, skre, kuiu, woolrich and some other stuff I wear. I buy it on sale and I wear it because it's better than denim. Of course they are profiting, that's the point of business. I listen to Steve's stuff and I agree with some stuff and disagree with some stuff. It's interesting and fun to listen to and it seems lately hes gotten a little more politically conservative than he use to be. Some of his cronies are hard to listen to though. Never listened to Matt so I can't comment.

 

[S.Clancy]

But is it? The Cold bore challenge results have been interesting to watch.

I'd never rule it out for everyone, as I personally know people who are absolutely competent, but I think the bar is a lot higher than most think, in actual field conditions.

Edited to add- I guess technically I'd agree with your wording, it just seems like we tend to underestimate the effort needed to be competent above 500 yds.

I would just say people don't realize the effort needed to be competent...at anything. The brutal truth is most people just aren't very good at anything.

 

[Eastonsgrandpa]

I would just say people don't realize the effort needed to be competent...at anything. The brutal truth is most people just aren't very good at anything.

I feel attacked.

That is utter truth though. I know my limits behind a rifle as I spend way more time with a bow. I won’t even consider a shot beyond 500 and anything more than 400 would have to be perfect scenario. Light wind, animal having no idea I’m there, and a good shooting space. But I do know guys that can pinwheel at 800 because they put in the work. I’ll watch and marvel at their skill.

But I’ll take an 80 yard bow shot. I put in daily work for that all year long.

 

[Chuckybmd]

I feel attacked.

That is utter truth though. I know my limits behind a rifle as I spend way more time with a bow. I won’t even consider a shot beyond 500 and anything more than 400 would have to be perfect scenario. Light wind, animal having no idea I’m there, and a good shooting space. But I do know guys that can pinwheel at 800 because they put in the work. I’ll watch and marvel at their skill.

But I’ll take an 80 yard bow shot. I put in daily work for that all year long.

So much more to hunting than just taking a 500 yard shot.

Lots of Roksliders seem to be fixated on this being the most important factor in making a good Hunter.

Really a lot of people don’t find shooting an animal from that far away enjoyable. Especially us bow hunters.

 

[87TT]

I'm a hunter more than a shooter. I have to seriously think about a shot over 250-300. Or a bow shot over 60. But I know my limits and practice those. Sorry but long range shooting is just that.

 

[Chuckybmd]

I'm a hunter more than a shooter. I have to seriously think about a shot over 250-300. Or a bow shot over 60. But I know my limits and practice those. Sorry but long range shooting is just that.

I agree

 

[Swamp Fox]

I would just say people don't realize the effort needed to be competent...at anything. The brutal truth is most people just aren't very good at anything.

And for the cherry on top, a lot of them still manage to have a bad attitude .... LOL

 

[ODB]

I'm a hunter more than a shooter. I have to seriously think about a shot over 250-300. Or a bow shot over 60. But I know my limits and practice those. Sorry but long range shooting is just that.

I have zero interest in taking a first shot over 300 yards. I grew up bow hunting with a recurve so in my mind anything over 25 yards seems damn long…

 

[long hunter]

Such a long thread, from a bunch of gear junkies. There is gear out there that's just as good and, in some instances, better than that mentioned, the animal you hunt could give a shit about what you wear, ( OOOH lookie there jake Buck that hunter is wearing SIKA and ranging us at 600 yards best watch out he might wound us) the animal you hunt deserves your utmost accuracy and the ability to close distance on it if you can insure that happens. Never bought into the hunting shows just a bunch of guys clipping you for a buck so they can go hunting. Never bought into the so-called top shelf clothing or equipment and have always been comfortable in the mountains and fields in all kinds of weather. The closest I get to so called brand names is Cabela's, Woolrich L.L. Bean that sort of stuff and then they have to be on sale. Save your money look around buy what you need and spend what you save on hunting.

 

[Eastonsgrandpa]

So much more to hunting than just taking a 500 yard shot.

Lots of Roksliders seem to be fixated on this being the most important factor in making a good Hunter.

Really a lot of people don’t find shooting an animal from that far away enjoyable. Especially us bow hunters.

I find I enjoy all aspects of the hunt from rifle to up close and personal though I definitely look forward to archery season most. What I find I love and obsess all winter about though is just being there. I’ve had a few dry seasons but know that even if I never got to draw back on an animal again, I’d be there anyway. I love the trees, smells, the air, the quiet, and daydream about certain meadows and hills. I went on the first scouting trip this weekend and it was a bust. Still too much snow to get in. But I was in the area I love and it brought back the peace I feel every time I’m there. Sitting around the first campfire helped me decompress from life down here in the “real world.”

 

[Andrew12gauge]

Such a long thread, from a bunch of gear junkies. There is gear out there that's just as good and, in some instances, better than that mentioned, the animal you hunt could give a shit about what you wear, ( OOOH lookie there jake Buck that hunter is wearing SIKA and ranging us at 600 yards best watch out he might wound us) the animal you hunt deserves your utmost accuracy and the ability to close distance on it if you can insure that happens. Never bought into the hunting shows just a bunch of guys clipping you for a buck so they can go hunting. Never bought into the so-called top shelf clothing or equipment and have always been comfortable in the mountains and fields in all kinds of weather. The closest I get to so called brand names is Cabela's, Woolrich L.L. Bean that sort of stuff and then they have to be on sale. Save your money look around buy what you need and spend what you save on hunting.

If you listen to the hunt quietly podcast they had on Aaron Davidson or whatever his name is that founded gunwerks. He argued the opposite, that hunting should be about making sure the animal is completely unaware while you shoot it from 1000 yds, to him that is the purest form of hunting, while to most of us that is simply target practice. I’ll never understand the desire to shoot longer and longer. I’ll shoot to about 400 but beyond that I know I can just sneak a little closer.


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[Swamp Fox]

If you listen to the hunt quietly podcast they had on Aaron Davidson or whatever his name is that founded gunwerks. He argued the opposite, that hunting should be about making sure the animal is completely unaware while you shoot it from 1000 yds, to him that is the purest form of hunting, while to most of us that is simply target practice. I’ll never understand the desire to shoot longer and longer. I’ll shoot to about 400 but beyond that I know I can just sneak a little closer.


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While there is some big country out there, it is also a fact that at some uncalculated distance there is not a lot of "hunt" left to tell stories about ....

 

[RyanT26]

I agree with Matt, I think it’s kind of shady that Sitka is sending people out on $20,000 elk hunts to try and recruit a different demographic. But if they called and wanted to sponsor me on some private land elk hunt I would sure as hell go.
I like the pieces of Sitka clothing that I have and I’m not gonna burn it like some crazy NFL fan. I have clothing pieces from just about everybody though, so there is no brand loyalty anyone

 

[Elkangle]

I agree with Matt, I think it’s kind of shady that Sitka is sending people out on $20,000 elk hunts to try and recruit a different demographic.

What is shady about this