Everyone releasing new hunting packs and frames but Kuiu?

Hey,

I noticed Kuiu just release the Ranger 2200 day pack. Personally, I think its a good looking, well thoughtout pack. You can tell alot of engineering and customer feedback went into it.
My question though is, why not make it compatible with the carbon frame? Looking close up on the ranger, it would have taken literally 4 buckles sown in?
EXO just release the K4, SG just released new pack. Everyone is working in this space. Kuiu is still making new things.
I am from Australia so maybe I dont understand how people hunt in the States.
We primarily stalk and its usually Sambar, Red, Fallow or Hog deer. Obviously when the hunt is successful we haul all this meat out which is simply impossible to do without the load sling mode, unless youre gonna bone stuff out and put it in your pack and ruin your gear.

I see Kuiu is releasing day packs with internal frames. What I would like to know is who is the target audience here? What do they hunt? How do they haul their meat home? Or is the meat just left there? Anyone from the US this is a genuine question and would love to know how its done.
Would have loved one of these new ranger 2200 packs on the PRO frame and suspension. Also love the charcoal colour of the pack, really works in Aussie woods.
Has anyone tried to mount a standard kuiu pack to a PRO frame?
The divide 4500 is the latest release Kuiu frame compatible pack and I feel like it was designed for the rich owners of Kuiu haha. Literally only covered their needs and thats it. Not a single other new size, just a weird pocket to put a spotter in (fairenough), but a rifle? Doesnt it make way more sense to side mount the rifle?? The divide pocket is so far away from the frame. Even a spotter and tripod, they arent light. Thats pocked and the locker zippers was literally their punch line, they were so prpud of it and it straight out sucks. So embarrasing. Maybe for a very small use case, but for all other hunting, wasteful.
I am literally so close to just giving up and moving to an SG or Exo. But then Kuiu puts all their packs on sale and releases the Ramger 2200. Anyone else thinks Kuiu maybe working on something quietly?

Armin

We haul every piece of meat out our backs in the west. There is no dragging, or leaving meat in the woods. That goes from animals as s
small as deer, up to moose to include bear hides. There are two ways we (my group) do it. Hunt with whatever pack you have, want, when the animal is killed, it is broken down, and the first load goes out. Depending on the pack, that could be just the back straps and loins. If the person is using a good pack, that could be a hind quarter going out the first trip. It could be boned out, or on the bone. That usually depends on how far we are from the truck. It’s it’s under 2-5 kilometers, 1-2 miles, we just leave the bone in. Greater than that, we debone, but that is always up to the person who arrowed the animal.

If we have a hunting camp where everyone is based out of, the next trip in will be a group of guys all with frame packs or whaterever pack they have and we take the rest of the quarters out. If the guy who killed is inexperienced, he will just come back to camp, and the Calvary will head in and take care of the animal in one trip.

If it’s just me, after that first load out using my hunting pack, I may switch to a frame when I go in for the second and third load out, or not. You don’t need a “sling”’or meat shelf on a pack to keep your pack from getting messed up. Once the quarters have cooled, placing them in a dry bag, or a contractor bag solves the blood issue.

I have a K4, I’ve packed some pretty good loads with it, but I can’t say it fits me well. The lumbar pad messes my back up with medium loads. I prefer packs without a lumbar pad. Frames like Kelly, or a badlands 2200 where the pad against your back is all on the same plane.

Good luck, in your search.
 
I have a K4, I’ve packed some pretty good loads with it, but I can’t say it fits me well. The lumbar pad messes my back up with medium loads. I prefer packs without a lumbar pad. Frames like Kelly, or a badlands 2200 where the pad against your back is all on the same plane.

Thick lumbar pads are never a good thing. Take it out, cut it down by 50% and give it another shot. That's what I did with my Duplex Lite and it helped a ton.
 
Thick lumbar pads are never a good thing. Take it out, cut it down by 50% and give it another shot. That's what I did with my Duplex Lite and it helped a ton.
I think it depends on the person because I would be ok with an even bigger lumbar pad.

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Exactly what I thought.

Lots of people flat won't hunt somewhere they can't get a truck/quad/sxs/tractor...

People literally don't understand the concept of being willing to quarter/bone out in the field and pack it on your back.

Shoot, I've been told you can't kill deer without a stand and feeder.

Plus the market of people who will shop a brand they like/trust.
I wasnt aware of this. In my 10+ years of hunting deer in Aus, I have never come across not seen a hunter use a tree stand. We mainly stalk and during certain times in the year some hunt with hounds. What does one do all day sitting in a stand haha?
 
I debone animals and haul out with my internal frame pack on day hunts. Never ruined any gear I just wash it when I get home. 95% of hunting time on day hunts my pack is light so I want something comfortable for that purpose. I'll suffer the <5% of the time I'm hauling meat out. Multi day trips are heavier so I carry my external frame pack then
 
Same, I have a 3600Pro and soon getting an 1850 pro hopefully. Wanted a 2300 in ash phantom but kuiu wont restock it
I also have the 3600 pro and the 7000lt. We used the 7000s to pack back in on a deer hunt last year and hauled a riduculous amount of weight in them. For the weight they are extremely comfortable.
 
I have a Kuiu Pro set up and a Exo K4. Still use both for different things. They both have their Pros and Cons. I'm heading out on a 3 day,50 km hike tomorrow morning and will be running my Pro 4000. Its light weight and comfy at the 30lb limit I'm targeting.

For sheep hunting, I have ran both and will run the Exo K4 for sure. There is a lot of sway in the Kuiu frame. The frame is too narrow to not have this happen.

For me, there is 3 parts to the bag:
Frame - Exo wins this battle. The frame is great. That being said, Kuiu frames handle loads ok too but need to limit them to under 50/60lbs.
Suspension - Will have to give this win to Exo. Its more comfortable and with more sizing options you get a better fit. I'm 34" in my jeans, which requires the L/XL in Kuiu. Don't feel I fall into the L/XL category. Exo waste belt really "hugs" my hips/body better than the kuiu one does.
Bag - Kuiu, hands down. I like pockets, horseshoe zips, organization. I know this all adds a little weight but feel its a good trade off for me. I only have the 7200 for the K4, 5000 has a horseshoe, but wished the 7200 had a few more features. Exo lid is better for holding the head hiking out, but is very small for storage of any of your day use stuff.

I'm a gear junky and don't sell a ton of things so I find use for both.

Kuiu would do well with a frame overhaul but that's probably it for me., Their bags are fine, suspension could use a better hip belt.

I gave Kuiu a lot of my money and still like their core products but feel they have lost their way with the passing of Jason. Too much not related hunting stuff that doesn't appeal to me. I got no problem paying $160CDN for a pair of pants that I will hike and hunt in, but I will not be spending $160 for a pair of pants to travel in. I will wear my $15 Costco pants for this. I guess if you build good gear that last, you need to find new customers to appeal too though.
 
I think it depends on the person because I would be ok with an even bigger lumbar pad.

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Then your frame most likely isn't fitted correctly. Thicker pads only move the load further away from your center of gravity.
 
I wasnt aware of this. In my 10+ years of hunting deer in Aus, I have never come across not seen a hunter use a tree stand. We mainly stalk and during certain times in the year some hunt with hounds. What does one do all day sitting in a stand haha?
In the southeastern US it's incredibly common. The standard method of hunting.

I think they mostly nap and snack. Lol
 
Been a daypack hunter since the 80s and used several of the KUIU daypacks for elk/deer hunting. 90% of the 000s of pack outs I’ve done are return the next day with pack frame and pack them out. Many of the elk we killed in the 80s stayed hanging several days before we started packing them out and then it would be several days of packing. Never have used the KUIU larger packs, as I have an k2 and 3 for meat hauling, but have zero complaints on their daypacks.
 
tbh i think they releasing a new pack and frame soon. I seen a rumor on here about it last year. they have the pro packs on sales now to maybe clear inventory.
 
Then why do they have lumbar pads to begin with?

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Thin lumbar pads are great. Thick lumbar pads are added to packs to offset the fact that they don't allow for a custom fit, and all the subsequent downsides.
 
I see Kuiu is releasing day packs with internal frames. What I would like to know is who is the target audience here? What do they hunt? How do they haul their meat home? Or is the meat just left there? Anyone from the US this is a genuine question and would love to know how its done.
Would have loved one of these new ranger 2200 packs on the PRO frame and suspension. Also love the charcoal colour of the pack, really works in Aussie woods.
Has anyone tried to mount a standard kuiu pack to a PRO frame?
I’ve got a very small Kuiu Divide 1200 that I use as a day pack for scouting, hiking into upper mountain streams/lakes to trout fish, and for much of my upland game bird hunting. It’s a great pack for my uses.

This last month, I purchased a Seekins rifle that has a folding stock. I folded my rifle up and it slid in the open non-zippered middle sleeve of the small Divide 1200 just fine. To carry a carbon fiber shooting tripod, the folding rifle, and extra layered clothing, etc., I just purchased the Divide 3000. I live in elk country and my outings are always day trips.

So I folded up the stock of the rifle and slid into the brand new Divide 3000 non-zippered middle sleeve and it wouldn’t go down to the base of the pack. I’m frustrated because Kuiu really made the bottom narrow. So now the ocular lens of my scope is the major portion of the setup supporting the weight of the rifle. Yes, scope rings are cranked and Loctite, but I really don’t want to have that much constant pressure applied to the scope hours on end. The rifle fits in the big zippered slot next to the frame but gets caught up on backpack edges going in and out. The shooting tripod attaches easy to the back of the pack. I’m 50/50 on if I’m going to keep the Divide 3000. I’m looking now for other brand daypacks that can accommodate a folding stock rifle and a shooting tripod. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.

I did check out the Kuiu Ranger 2200 yesterday. Seems like a nice little day pack and is nice and lightweight. But it doesn’t seem to have an open middle slot for a rifle or optics.
 
Am I the only who thinks the Ranger is a combo of past packs? It feels like it's the hip belt from the Venture series with the bag of previous Icon/Pro 1850/2300 with an aluminum frame? It looks fine, but I used the Venture 2300 for a short time and comparing the two, one of the best features was the outside vertical zipper pocket on the back of the bag. This was the same pocket I loved about the Icon Pro line of bags for the frame packs prior to the updated "pro" line of bags they currently have. The Ranger feels like aluminum framed 2300 Pro bag, with less comfortable hip belts. That removable hip belt on the ranger and likely the Venture bag before it was wasn't super great for me.

Long story short I sold the Venture 2300 but it was a good day pack that the Ranger may not be improved upon. I have many Kuiu clothing items and I'm still trying to buy some of the OG pieces (I have a WTB in classifieds, but please PM me if you have a Chinook Verde 2.0 pant!) But as others have mentioned, it feels like since the loss of Jason, the company seems like it doesn't have a direction that inspires. I look at the lineup and I'm like how many non hunting "technical" travel pants, luggage, polo's, ect is missing in the world? Have we solved all the mountain hunting problems that we've moved onto travel, and athletic leisure wear now??? I get the branding clothing items, as everyone offers.
 
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