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It’s not called operation warp speed for no reason. Use common sense people. It’s lacking in some on this thread. I won’t be getting it until I’m forced to which will happen at some point. My wife is an RN and her hospital system (which is a National system) isn’t even making it mandatory. That should tell you something when a National hospital chain isn’t making a vaccine mandatory, while the other hospital she just quit is.

I’ll just leave this here also as further evidence. This is just one of many reports similar. And this is CHICAGO.

Chicago-area hospital pauses vaccinations after 4 workers experience adverse reactions: report


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It’s not called operation warp speed for no reason. Use common sense people. It’s lacking in some on this thread. I won’t be getting it until I’m forced to which will happen at some point. My wife is an RN and her hospital system (which is a National system) isn’t even making it mandatory. That should tell you something when a National hospital chain isn’t making a vaccine mandatory, while the other hospital she just quit is.

I’ll just leave this here also as further evidence. This is just one of many reports similar. And this is CHICAGO.

Chicago-area hospital pauses vaccinations after 4 workers experience adverse reactions: report


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Those 4 reactions amount to .13% of vaccine recipients there. I’m not sure how you get much safer than that. Certainly safer than getting the virus.
 
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I'll gladly excuse your jadedness as I'm sure this has been a tough row to hoe for those in health care, and I hope you'll excuse mine. Nothing you posted actually qualifies you to lecture anyone else regarding vaccines, and I wonder how you will feel about it if you are helping ten times as many die next year or the year after from autoimmune complications due to the vaccine.
Can you post the article or source on a relationship between the vaccine and autoimmune complications?
 
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Those 4 reactions amount to .13% of vaccine recipients there. I’m not sure how you get much safer than that. Certainly safer than getting the virus.

Really. The virus has a higher recovery rate than the effectiveness of the vaccine. Try again.

Also the article says the organization so that probably includes all their hospitals. I wonder what that rate looks like at that particular hospital of that is the case.

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Original poster here. Happy to report zero side effects after 24 hrs from first dose of vaccine other than some very mild deltoid soreness. Will see if the second dose has a different effect.

Again I absolutely respect anyones decision to abstain from the vaccine. My reasons for posting are to share my experience with this as a physician and because I know many people are curious what getting the vaccine will be like. I am happy to be a guinea pig. I understand the feelings that the vaccine was rushed. Yes the novel Sars-CoV 19 hasnt been around very long. However there have been article published in peer reviewed medical journals over 15 years ago discussing SarsCoV vaccine concept and and its antigenic properties.

I work in three different health systems and have see firsthand in the hospital every day what this virus can do to people. Yes we dont know what the long term side effects from the vaccine are. What is known is there is a very real possibility of long term side effects from the other Sars viruses and may be long term effects from the current strain in minimally symptomatic people.

I chose to take my chances with the vaccine.

Time will tell if I made the right decision.
 

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I've only read about a few allergic reactions to the vaccine but an allergic reaction is a very treatable scenario just like a spider bite or wasp sting.


I wonder how the success of smallpox and polio vaccinations would have changed if the internet and it's multitude of cyber experts had been around in those days. I still remember getting my sugar cube (polio vax) at school. Can you imagine that happening now??
 

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It's not the mistrust of science. It's the mistrust of rushed science that has progressed with a whole bunch of political loopholes and free passes without years of research and tests behind it. If it makes you feel better i don't trust politicians that stand at a podium and say they have my best interest at heart either. This whole thing has been political from the start the vaccine is just an extension of those politics.

And just like that they now have their out for when their science doesnt work
 

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Yeah is this the same science where the PA health director that’s a man, thinks he’s a woman? And the plexiglass is up between self-checkout at Wally World but no one wipes down the key pad of the debit/credit card machine between each of its thousand uses a day. No one under the age of 70 has died in my county. Had an old man in the grocery store parking lot tell my wife not to wear flip flops because she can get Covid through the ground. What did the vaccine finish at in effectiveness anyway? Last I saw it was 90-95% effective? So your chances of getting it and beating it are greater than the vaccine actually working? You don’t need a mask, you need a mask, cloth masks don’t work better than paper masks, you still need to wear a mask after you get vaccinated has turned into people publicly shaming you for not wearing one outside in the fresh air, or following the directional signs on the floor in a store. The only pandemic that you needed to actually get tested to see if you have it. Tesla takes 4 tests in the same day using the same machine and gets 2 positive and 2 negative results. Not to mention allllll the conflicting data and info around the bs tests in general.. what this allowed the people to do who make decisions in this country should be all you need to know. My family and friends have literally lost everything they’ve worked decades to build. Thankfully none of them came remotely close to dying from this. It was common sense before, if you were sick, stay away from grandma and grandpa or anyone who’s immune-compromised. Trust the science? In this case, that’s going to be a no from me.


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“. Tesla takes 4 tests in the same day using the same machine and gets 2 positive and 2 negative results.”

?? What are you referring to here?
 

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“. Tesla takes 4 tests in the same day using the same machine and gets 2 positive and 2 negative results.”

?? What are you referring to here?
He's talking about Elon musk.

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Really. The virus has a higher recovery rate than the effectiveness of the vaccine. Try again.

Also the article says the organization so that probably includes all their hospitals. I wonder what that rate looks like at that particular hospital of that is the case.
I don't think those numbers mean what you think they mean. It's not just 95% vs 99.5% chance of dying.
The major worries for younger people now are not dying from COVID it's catching it and having long term issues like vasculitis, myocarditis, lung problems, or whatever the hell else will pop up. If the vaccines are truly that effective, getting it would make the chances of getting COVID on top of getting a severe case would be essentially zero.

Yes maybe there could be some vaccine complications but most complications show up shortly (few months) after a vaccine injection. By the time us normal people get it, millions of people will have received theirs and we will have 6 months to a year of follow up data. I think I will take the miniscule chance of a vaccine issue vs the known COVID chances of hamstringing myself for the rest of my life not to mention hurting anyone in my family or community.
 
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The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are estimated to be above 90% effective. Not perfect but that's the estimate after the 2nd dose. If it won't prevent you catching it, it will likely increase the likelihood of a mild or asymptomatic case. The differences in the placebo group vs the vaccine group in regards to severe covid were noticeable.

It's not black and white with catching Covid, dying vs living. It's dying vs recovering 100% vs not recovering 100%. There are enough reports now of people that haven't recovered to 100% to be pretty worrisome not to mention the taxation on our healthcare system it's causing. The various vaccines even being 60% effective will make a big impact in lowering the strain on our hospitals and give time for everyone to catch up.

Hopefully enough people will get it so we can go back to relative normalcy soon.


The death rate:
Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)

Vaccine info:
Pfizer's Covid Vaccine, Explained - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

The Johns Hopkins 60-Minute COVID-19 Briefing: Expert Insights on What You Need to Know Now - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)

Get the facts about COVID-19 vaccines - Mayo Clinic

Podcasts with Paul Offit MD Virology and Vaccine Expert (worked closely with development of measles vaccine)
#137 - Paul Offit, M.D.: An expert perspective on COVID-19 vaccines - Peter Attia (peterattiamd.com)

Coronavirus Vaccine Update With Paul A. Offit, MD | Coronavirus (COVID19) | JN Learning | AMA Ed Hub (ama-assn.org)
 

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And just like that they now have their out for when their science doesnt work
Luckily so far none of the mutation strains are proven nor thought to have an impact on the vaccination efficacy.
 

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Get the vaccine or don't. You have to do what's best for you. No need to justify to anyone why you choose the way you do. Just please stop with the social media kookiness. If you have reliable data to back your claims please post it.
 
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