Reaper or the new OG 30 ?

[omicron1792]

Will the reflex make them quieter, or just change tone and balance?

Will a 4+4 be noticably quieter than a 6?

Coming from my experience with my AB raptor with reflex.

The reflex helps but not to the extent of a foward baffle.

My guess is a 4+4 and a 6 will be similar in reduction.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Will the reflex make them quieter, or just change tone and balance?

Will a 4+4 be noticably quieter than a 6?

The reflex does make it quieter, but not equally so. The tests that AB ran suggest that 2” of reflex is about equivalent to one extra baffle. My experience with reflex suppressors seems to bear this out. So, a 4+4 reflex 6.5 suppressor seems to be equivalent to a 6” muzzle forward 6.5 suppressor of the same diameter.

 

[dreamingWest]

AB Raptors huh?
Once I again, I learn about another good suppressor option I hadn't heard of previously. I really fell behind this research when I thought TBAC U7 was my one and only forever.

Raptor 6 w/ reflex sounds like another option I need to consider. I like that it's still on the lower diameter side and has an end cap. Now I have to look to see if there are any brake options in that diameter.

 

[lelliott8]

AB Raptors huh?
Once I again, I learn about another good suppressor option I hadn't heard of previously. I really fell behind this research when I thought TBAC U7 was my one and only forever.

Raptor 6 w/ reflex sounds like another option I need to consider. I like that it's still on the lower diameter side and has an end cap. Now I have to look to see if there are any brake options in that diameter.

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There are some. SRS seems like the only one in stock and I think their new brake will eventually have an AB version

 

[Ryan Avery]

Avery, I think you’re arguing against a complaint most people never actually made.

The issue wasn’t that Unknown lied about the OG or manipulated numbers. Most of us understand suppressors are all about tradeoffs and that decibels don’t tell the whole story.

The frustration was that people trusted you, bought into the OG concept, laid out hard earned cash, and then almost immediately saw Unknown release what you yourself described as a “way better” solution for the same intended use case, before many even had a chance to get their OG to the field.

That’s why people felt burned. Defending the OG’s performance doesn’t really address that criticism.

I don’t think the OG was a failure, and I don’t think anyone is accusing Unknown of dishonesty. But I also don’t think it’s accurate to act like the backlash was about people claiming they were misled. It was mostly about timing, expectations, and product management considerations.

Tim, I see where you’re coming from, but I’ve also heard from others who felt we weren’t transparent, which is why I brought this up again. I get the concerns about launching a new suppressor while promoting the OG30, but that wasn’t our plan. After we released the OG30, customers started asking for a suppressor for 6.5 or smaller calibers. It’s normal for companies to learn from past products and use that knowledge to make improvements. 3D printing also helps speed up research and development. I don’t think companies should have to apologize for making progress. That is my opinion; I don't speak for US.

D0 you have an OG suppressor?

 

[Coopsdaddy]

When’s the new og available?
If not substantially better than my ultra 7 I’ll have to pass.

 

[sneaky]

When’s the new og available?
If not substantially better than my ultra 7 I’ll have to pass.

The new OG is already out

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[Coopsdaddy]

Thanks,
Guess I missed the hype there cans usually get or the review of it.
Would like a comparison to an ultra 7 if anyone has both.

 

[lovetohunt93]

It does the same thing on my 22” Sauer 100 in 6.5 Creed. It was particularly noticeable with S&B 156-grain factory loads, but it happened with other factory loads too. This was in a range setting back in December (so clean rifle and cool weather). I eventually swapped to the OG 6.5 for that rifle and the problem stopped. I thought it was a “me” problem until I saw it happen to AJSomp’s rifle.

This is concerning as I have a Nano on the way for a 18" 22 Creed built on a Kelbly Atlas action. I sure hope I don't have any pressure issues with that, would be super disappointing.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

This is concerning as I have a Nano on the way for a 18" 22 Creed built on a Kelbly Atlas action. I sure hope I don't have any pressure issues with that, would be super disappointing.

I have only used my Nano on my .223s so far, but I haven’t seen any issues.

 

[lovetohunt93]

I have only used my Nano on my .223s so far, but I haven’t seen any issues.

Would you say "most" of the time people are fine with not having back pressure issues with the Airlocks on bolt guns?

This is the first I have read about this so doesn't seem like a common problem.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Would you say "most" of the time people are fine with not having back pressure issues with the Airlocks on bolt guns?

This is the first I have read about this so doesn't seem like a common problem.

I think that is probably the case. I only know of two people who have experienced that issue and both of us encountered it during relatively high volume shooting. I don’t think it is likely to affect a hunter.

 

[Formidilosus]

This is concerning as I have a Nano on the way for a 18" 22 Creed built on a Kelbly Atlas action. I sure hope I don't have any pressure issues with that, would be super disappointing.

Airlocks are high back pressure cans- that’s how they work. There were 4x 6.5’s and 3x Nanos IIRC in this years S2H classes. The 6.5’s were not used but for a hundred rounds or so at most each- two of them had stiff bolt/pressure issues. The Nano’s were used on 223’s- one had intermittent pressure issues, however I believe that was the ammo and not the can.

The Airlocks are good cans it seems from a suppression and weight perspective. However, high turbulence/high back pressure cans will always show issues with stiff bolts and pressure more than none high turbulence/high back pressure cans- especially with a headwind. As well they show mirage much sooner than most other cans and require a cover to shoot/practice/train with at all; even still in differing conditions without a crosswind sometimes 3-4 shots is all that can be taken before you can’t see through the mirage.

There is generally a price for everything.

 

[Salmon River Solutions]

Do your ears ring at all with the brake on the reaper? I've never shot a suppressor with a brake but i watched a video recently of a different can and the guy said his ears rang with a brake on the can.

I've only tried it without ear pro in the mountains when I was running mock scenarios with my daughter filming on the spotter. When you're rushing like that I didn't notice it at all. Definitely will under the hearing safe threshold, and I was taking two shots then transitioning to a different position. (22" 6.5 creed)

Ken