Quiet rifle for squirrels?

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The squirrels have really been driving me crazy during my deer stand sits, so I think I'm going to do something about it. I'd lean towards the higher end (I love my Cooper centerfire rifles, but not sure that I want to pay that much for a 22LR, especially since I would probably have to send it back to be threaded.) Volquartsen (not sure I appreciate the futuristic look)? Anschutz? CZ455? I prefer wood grain stock - not laminate.

And for those who are hunting these critters, I also welcome input on caliber and scope choices.
 
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If you’re set on shooting the squirrels. CCI CB Longs out of a .22 rifle barrel is pretty dang quiet. I’m assuming you have one. Might not cycle in a semi auto, but it’s great in bolt and lever guns. I’ve even used it in my S&W 617 .22 revolver for grouse. Quieter than full power .22lr.
 
I have a Tikka t1x, love it, and they come with a threaded barrel. Been thinking about doing the same thing...
 
You spend lots of time loading a 22lr. Browning T-Bolt has the best mags by far and comes in a suppressor ready model. You'll want a new trigger spring made. I recommend Winchester subsonic HPs. They hit harder due to having the biggest hollow point. Fiocchi comes in second in my opinion. If economy is important, CCI SS HPs and Standard Velocity fly the same. I use SV for practice year round and can use the SS HPs without changing the scope.

If your hunting grounds are in the middle of the state, I might be willing to bring my squirrel dog to help with the problem.

If you're going to hunt them without a dog, I'd look for a .17 HM2. You'll kill more if you can reach out further with a flatter shooter. The HMR is too much for squirrel. Blows them up whereas the HM2 shoots flat enough but doesn't grenade the thing. I use 22lr because my shots are 35 yards max and I kill a lot of squirrel.

An adjustable objective version of your deer rifle would probably be the thing. I run a Weaver RV7. When they're timbering out the low power helps keep them in the scope. I typically either shoot at 2.5x or 7x, not in between. You could do fine with 4x, though. 6x if only shooting at stationary animals. You'll want adjustable objective if shooting past 50 yards for clarity sake.
 
The short barrel factory threaded Savage is a great choice. I have one in 22lr and mag. Lr is definitely the way to go if your wanting it to be quiet. You also have to be careful with some sub Sonic ammo. In a rifle some of them can actually break the sound barrier. They're way quieter in a pistol.
The suppressor makes varmint shooting way more fun!
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Are you worried the squirrels are scaring the deer?
Ha! That would explain not seeing any deer on a few sits. I'm worried they are driving me insane

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Ha! That would explain not seeing any deer on a few sits. I'm worried they are driving me insane

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When I hunted S. Illinois, the squirrels there were relentless. They would see you move and then stand there and stare you down while the chattered for literally hours. I mean HOURS. I couldn't believe how long they would stay at it. There were many, many times when the report of a single air rifle shot would have been much less disruptive in the woods than that constant squirrel chatter. Honestly, I would pack a good quality air pistol in my pack these days if I still had that problem. Usually, they were chattering at me from less than 30 feet away. Very simple shot for a good air pistol with open sights.

Something like this would do the trick. And ammo is cheap. ;)

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My stamp just arrived yesterday for a PM-22. Cranked a few dozen rounds from my Mark IV 22/45 on a whim, but will do a more thorough test on paper. The rifle I'll put it on is a threaded 10/22 for shooting critters from my porch (invasive collared doves and California ground squirrels). It'll be pretty quiet with subsonic rounds, though those rounds obviously lack zip (problems for trajectory or even cycling rounds in semi-autos) and accuracy/consistency in many cases. I've got maybe 20 types of different ammo and will see if there's a secret sauce worth sharing.

Some of the faster rounds mentioned above might be nice, though I doubt you'll get a true benefit of a "suppressed" sound with anything approaching or over 1,125 ft/s. The guys above suggesting air rifles might be on point (unless you don't mind dropping >$200 for the can, and another $225 for stamp + trust). I have another friend that has one of those cheap pistol/crossbow setups that is pretty slick.

I'd also suggest checking out the CCI CB rounds... extremely quiet without a can. I buy them for my young kids to shoot from their single-shot 22 so we don't have to wear ear muffs.

Good luck!

 
I'm actually no so worried about being quiet as I am about not having to wear ear pro. I've just sent off a 25-06 to be threaded for that reason and know the sound barrier will be an issue.

I've read 22LR is very dirty for suppressors. Is that true of all rimfire ammo?



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Yeah, I'd have a hard time arguing against the filthy component of rimfire ammo... that PM-22 is really easy to clean, though, and a good selling point.

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Rimfire ammo with powder tends to be relatively dirty in semi autos and handguns. Bolts actions run cleanest. That was a good point about varying velocity of loads advertised as subsonic though. The loads I listed ride the line and vary depending on ambient temps. Not much though.

Re: air rifles. I have seen some impressive air rifles, but the common stuff doesn't touch a rimfire for killing. Sq. are harder to kill than they get credit for sometimes. You can't always get a line on a head shot. I had to shoot a buck sq. three times a couple of mornings ago. Ambient temp. was in the twenties. Two to the chest brought it down, but still alive. Both shots were in the vitals, not entirely misses. You can quickly kill anything small enough, up to the size of a fox, by stepping on it to collapse the chest so it can't breathe. Nope, had to spend another dime shooting it in the head. And don't underestimate how far it is to the top of some of our bigger trees in GA. A sq. can get higher than you can reach with a pellet rifle or .410. Lots of us learned that as boys.

I wear ear pro for the high velocity stuff I run in my trainer carbine and revolver. The subsonic stuff from a 20" barrel isn't that loud. My cur trying to blow the top out of the tree is louder. 22lr is fastest from around a 16" barrel. The need for ear pro will vary, I guess. This begs the question of why would I want subsonic HP if I have a dog barking loudly. Subsonic HPs are more accurate and hit harder than high velocity stuff. You can hear the loud WHOP! High velocity isn't as accurate and doesn't do as much. Hyper velocity is different, but is seldom as accurate. I believe people have special chambers cut for specific hyper rounds to try to tame them. That's why the .17 HM2 exists. The hyper 22lr is a problem for accuracy. If your sq. aren't tame enough to easily slip within 30 yards, .17.

And, you may be surprised to find that those sq. that were driving you nuts in November have pulled a disappearing act after deer season. They're still there, but they are inside the trees replacing themselves. GA sq. are rutting now. After the next few weeks they will be scarce until the end of February. They stay inside and might touch the ground twice a day to get a drink of water and feed on stored acorns. I'm hardcore, taking the dog out a few times per week starting in late November or before. I give it up mid January and switch to trying to kill every coon on the hunt club.

There is great value in having a 22lr clone of your centerfire rifle as a trainer. And learning to tell the difference between a deer and a sq. and which kinda bird is making that noise over there. Ha!
 
Rimfire ammo with powder tends to be relatively dirty in semi autos and handguns. Bolts actions run cleanest. That was a good point about varying velocity of loads advertised as subsonic though. The loads I listed ride the line and vary depending on ambient temps. Not much though.

Re: air rifles. I have seen some impressive air rifles, but the common stuff doesn't touch a rimfire for killing. Sq. are harder to kill than they get credit for sometimes. You can't always get a line on a head shot. I had to shoot a buck sq. three times a couple of mornings ago. Ambient temp. was in the twenties. Two to the chest brought it down, but still alive. Both shots were in the vitals, not entirely misses. You can quickly kill anything small enough, up to the size of a fox, by stepping on it to collapse the chest so it can't breathe. Nope, had to spend another dime shooting it in the head. And don't underestimate how far it is to the top of some of our bigger trees in GA. A sq. can get higher than you can reach with a pellet rifle or .410. Lots of us learned that as boys.

I wear ear pro for the high velocity stuff I run in my trainer carbine and revolver. The subsonic stuff from a 20" barrel isn't that loud. My cur trying to blow the top out of the tree is louder. 22lr is fastest from around a 16" barrel. The need for ear pro will vary, I guess. This begs the question of why would I want subsonic HP if I have a dog barking loudly. Subsonic HPs are more accurate and hit harder than high velocity stuff. You can hear the loud WHOP! High velocity isn't as accurate and doesn't do as much. Hyper velocity is different, but is seldom as accurate. I believe people have special chambers cut for specific hyper rounds to try to tame them. That's why the .17 HM2 exists. The hyper 22lr is a problem for accuracy. If your sq. aren't tame enough to easily slip within 30 yards, .17.

And, you may be surprised to find that those sq. that were driving you nuts in November have pulled a disappearing act after deer season. They're still there, but they are inside the trees replacing themselves. GA sq. are rutting now. After the next few weeks they will be scarce until the end of February. They stay inside and might touch the ground twice a day to get a drink of water and feed on stored acorns. I'm hardcore, taking the dog out a few times per week starting in late November or before. I give it up mid January and switch to trying to kill every coon on the hunt club.

There is great value in having a 22lr clone of your centerfire rifle as a trainer. And learning to tell the difference between a deer and a sq. and which kinda bird is making that noise over there. Ha!

I agree with some of the good points here - the high velocity stuff is great for exploding carcasses, but not nearly as accurate as match stuff.
Simple 5-shot group picture here from my 10/22 at about 20 yards. You see the high velocity stuff isn’t nearly as consistent. I still love those Stingers, though! Boxes are in order of the bullseyes.

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Any half decent rimfire suppressor should be user serviceable so it's not really a limiting factor. The TBAC 22-TD has a removable baffle stack that you can take apart and clean. Pretty sure the Dead Air Mask is also user serviceable.
 
I have a Dead Air Mask 22 on a Tikka T1x. Shoots all the Aguila ammo phenomenally. The subsonic stuff is great for shooting targets and grouse in the driveway. All I can hear is a click from the firing pin hitting the case. It is like the movies quiet.

Their standard velocity stuff is super quiet as well but loud enough that my wife would tell me to stop shooting.




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Any 22lr will work. CCI Clean-22™ Sub-Sonic # 934CC won't foul your can as much. Many choices of suppressor out there. Get one that is easy to clean (great write ups/reviews on Silencertalk.com). None are quiet enough to not spook deer. I actually don't see what problem stand hunters have with squirrels. I hear a noise and take a look, and if it's a squirrel I ignore it. But if you want to pop them, they are good eating.

At reasonable ranges a fixed scope will work fantastic. I shoot an old Russian 4X fixed scope. If I were buying a scope, I would buy an SWFA 6x42 fixed. $299 bucks for one the best scopes you can get. I actually use one of these scopes on my 6.5 Creedmoor and shoot out to 500 yards without any problems.

My squirrel gun is a 10/22 with a with a Pac-Lite threaded barrel. Works great. In fact I hunted with it yesterday.

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My suppressed 22 with sshp’s is far quieter than any pellet rifle I’ve ever shot. Especially one that’s powerful enough to kill a squirrel at reasonable range. I’d go with a bolt action though. Cleaner shooting and less noisy with the action staying closed. I’d also challenge the comment that suppressed 22 will spook deer. That’s not been my experience at all.
 
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