PSA - Hunting off atv/utvs…

[Nickofthewoods]

ATV's/UTV's - I was helping a friend hunt 1st rifle as well, and we passed a camp full of utv's in my Jeep every morning before they had left camp. I could hear those things 2 miles away and could even pinpoint where they parked each morning and my ears aren't near as good as an Elk's obviously.

Wind - l also watched two guys with headlamps walk right out into the middle of a small tree island separating two huge meadows and setup there. No Elk anywhere within their field of vision wouldn't have seen, heard, or smelled them, and to the surprise of nobody, as soon as it was light enough to see there were no animals around their spot. Brilliant.

We worked around all those people and still had a few good opportunities though.

 

[jayhawk]

Just wait for recreational users that don’t hunt to say the same about hunters not being on public lands, pretty easy to throw your views across the board. I know most hate when hunting season starts as they don’t feel safe in the woods.

There is plenty of public for all types, if you completely dislike motors i hope you don’t drive a vehicle to a trailhead, lol. Also stop road hunting or i guess hunting roads and it won’t be an issue, pretty easy to get completely away from any of this stuff.

I literally just said "Drive your vehicle, then walk in".

I ride my dual sport on forestry roads all the time. I don't even care if recreational riders use them during the hunting season. I care that hunters do. That's just my opinion.

Isn’t driving the atv on a road, hunting access?

Yep.

 

[204guy]

 

[204guy]

 

[Ucsdryder]

Was the atv on an open vehicle road?

The atv was on a 50” trail. The Tacoma was also on the 50” trial.

 

[MuleyFever]

Wind - l also watched two guys with headlamps walk right out into the middle of a small tree island separating two huge meadows and setup there. No Elk anywhere within their field of vision wouldn't have seen, heard, or smelled them, and to the surprise of nobody, as soon as it was light enough to see there were no animals around their spot. Brilliant.

Maybe they were set up hoping to catch animals being pushed across? I had a spot during rifle that was a overgrown field on top of a ridge. Three years in a row I shot deer by standing in the middle of the field and waiting for deer to get pushed across. I stood in the middle as it allowed me to cover more of the field in my effective range.

 

[*zap*]

Were they wkr`s?

 

[Nickofthewoods]

Maybe they were set up hoping to catch animals being pushed across? I had a spot during rifle that was a overgrown field on top of a ridge. Three years in a row I shot deer by standing in the middle of the field and waiting for deer to get pushed across. I stood in the middle as it allowed me to cover more of the field in my effective range.

It's certainly possible that was their goal, but even if it was, why blow out a spot that might have Elk by stomping into the middle of it in the dark? They could have just waited back a little until it got light enough to see and then moved forward.

 

[Broomd]

Happy to report that Potlatch Inc., a major land holder and logging corp here in North Idaho has banned all ATVs from their properties. Hunters must access via boot leather or not at all.

We really appreciate having the quads around the ranch, they have their place; but hunting is done on foot as it should be.

 

[Hill Difficulty]

If I hunted from a truck or ATV I'd be physically and mentally softer,... my kids would be softer,... and my dogs would be softer. Only by God's grace, having a full belly with all the stuff never appealed me.


Marshall McLuhan - extensions and amputations:

An extension occurs when an individual or society makes or uses something in a way that extends the range of the human body and mind in a fashion that is new. The shovel we use for digging holes is a kind of extension of the hands and feet. ... A microscope, or telescope is a way of seeing that is an extension of the eye.

Considering more complicated extensions, one might think of the automobile as an extension of the feet. It allows man to travel places in the same manner as the feet, only faster and with less effort. ... Most individuals already understand the concept of extension, but many are unreflective when it comes to what McLuhan calls "amputations;" the counterpart to extensions.

Every extension of mankind, especially technological extensions, have the effect of amputating or modifying some other extension. An example of an amputation would be the loss of archery skills with the development of gunpowder and firearms. … The telephone extends the voice, but also amputates the art of penmanship gained through regular correspondence. These are examples, and almost everything we can think of is subject to similar observations.

McLuhan believed that mankind has always been fascinated and obsessed with these extensions, but too frequently we choose to ignore or minimize the amputations. ... We have become people who regularly praise all extensions, and minimize all amputations. McLuhan believed that we do so at our own peril.


Most extensions are good things. It's the amputations that net us less smarts and higher BMI.

 

[IdahoHntr]

Ha!!!

I’ve hunted on horses. In my experience the elk are not scared of them…at all…

I’m all for motorized bikes, as long as they’re on motorcycle trails…get it…motor-cycle!

The real funny thing is I can describe your experience to a T but substitute guys riding up the gully on horses for atvs. So many occasions where the guy riding his horse during prime time "cause horses don't scare animals!" has scared everything out of the country. I have never once seen a mature animal stick around for horses.

At least with atvs it's super easy to avoid them. Just don't hunt near a road. Horses can be anywhere!

I don't mind people with horses, there are plenty of guys who do it right. But this idea that horses don't scare animals needs to die, because I have seen the contrary way too many times.

 

[browning2480]

Curious as to the BMI or your household, or is it laziness--or a combo thereof.

I am 6 foot 175 pounds, but don’t see how that is relevant. It is just the unit we hunt, you can walk forever and not get away from the ATVs. The 50” trails are all over the place. So why walk an ATV trail that will have people riding past you lol. I guess if it makes you feel tough and strong, then keep walking the ATV trails lol.

 

[browning2480]

Curious as to the BMI or your household, or is it laziness--or a combo thereof.

Also, don’t tell the 13 yr old in this pic that you can’t kill something close to an ATV trai, he won’t believe you. We could see the ATV from where this buck was skinned out. To each their own.

 

[SuperDUECE22]

I love the atv/utv hunting crowd. They keep to the roads and trails (for the most part anyways) and far less competition where I am hunting. If there were no atv/utvs and then all these hunters were hiking back in the OP would be complaining about all the pressure.

 

[Broomd]

I love the atv/utv hunting crowd. They keep to the roads and trails (for the most part anyways) and far less competition where I am hunting. If there were no atv/utvs and then all these hunters were hiking back in the OP would be complaining about all the pressure.

Truth to this for sure!

Doesn't change the overall MO of the average Keystone Light ATV hunter. They will be the ones to sh t on the woodline and leave the pile and napkin behind. Or shoot 600 yards at a deer and when it doesn't drop instantly and runs off to a slow gut-shot death, move on to another....

There are decent ATV hunters, but I haven't met many of them.

Also, don’t tell the 13 yr old in this pic that you can’t kill something close to an ATV trai, he won’t believe you. We could see the ATV from where this buck was skinned out. To each their own.

Yep, to each his own....my son doesn't hunt off an ATV, was never taught that way.
His 30-40 mile hunts are all boot leather, and he wouldn't want it any other way.

 

[nebhunt]

I don't see what the problem would be using an atv or utv on roads that it is legal to do so. Do people feel that they are more of a problem on the roads than a pickup or suv? I plan to use my utv on some of the forest service road that are very rough and save my truck the beating. Also some of the roads are very narrow and meeting another vehicle can be problem when you meet another vehicle. With an atv or utv it gives you a little more room to go around another vehicle.

 

[tdhanses]

Happy to report that Potlatch Inc., a major land holder and logging corp here in North Idaho has banned all ATVs from their properties. Hunters must access via boot leather or not at all.

We really appreciate having the quads around the ranch, they have their place; but hunting is done on foot as it should be.

I don’t think people hunt off them, most use them the same as a pickup to reduce damaging the main vehicle, get to a place to wear out boots but maybe not, maybe more hunt off them then I think which to me is hilarious if true.

 

[tdhanses]

I love the atv/utv hunting crowd. They keep to the roads and trails (for the most part anyways) and far less competition where I am hunting. If there were no atv/utvs and then all these hunters were hiking back in the OP would be complaining about all the pressure.

Wait, wouldn’t the pressure leave if he is hunting those trails

 

[tdhanses]

Truth to this for sure!

Doesn't change the overall MO of the average Keystone Light ATV hunter. They will be the ones to sh t on the woodline and leave the pile and napkin behind. Or shoot 600 yards at a deer and when it doesn't drop instantly and runs off to a slow gut-shot death, move on to another....

There are decent ATV hunters, but I haven't met many of them.


Yep, to each his own....my son doesn't hunt off an ATV, was never taught that way.
His 30-40 mile hunts are all boot leather, and he wouldn't want it any other way.

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Bet he doesn’t hunt any atv trails

 

[tdhanses]

I don't see what the problem would be using an atv or utv on roads that it is legal to do so. Do people feel that they are more of a problem on the roads than a pickup or suv? I plan to use my utv on some of the forest service road that are very rough and save my truck the beating. Also some of the roads are very narrow and meeting another vehicle can be problem when you meet another vehicle. With an atv or utv it gives you a little more room to go around another vehicle.

That’s exactly how i use my utv, i don’t drive my pickup at all, if i backpack in I don’t drive the utv at all. The atv/utv just allows you to cover crappy roads and hunt different areas when you have a basecamp hunt, you still hike many miles each day and don’t hunt off them.