Pistol brace news

[Conrad101st]

Justice Department announces new rule to regulate pistol-stabilizing braces | CNN Politics

Attorney General Merrick Garland and Steve Dettelbach, the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), announced new regulations Friday that would subject pistol-stabilizing braces to additional regulations, including higher taxes, longer waiting periods and...

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I wonder if they really understand the nuance of this statement:

“According to the Justice Department, manufacturers, dealers and individual gun owners have 120 days to register tax-free any existing short-barreled rifles covered by the rule. They can also remove the stabilizing brace or surrender covered short-barreled rifles to the ATF, the department said.”

 

[TheTone]

It’s not exactly hard to find people using their “brace” as a shouldered stock.

 

[Hang18]

IMO, unwarranted government over reach. Now many of these type firearms are involved with illegal
actions. There is a 2A, in which I cannot find any definition as to what "kind" of firearm is included or excluded from the "right to bear arms". How did "we" ever let this Amendment get diluted; if that is the correct word. I'm not a legal nor Constitutional scholar, but, it should be pretty straight forward. The government is not a friend of the legal law abiding U.S. citizen; on many fronts.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Ok ok ok.
Let's say someone was willing to comply.
How do they give you 120 days to register.
When it takes 180 plus to get a stamp approval?

 

[wesfromky]

If you wanted a silencer before 2025, hope you are already in the queue.

I had a braced 9mm in my cart last night, but held off in anticipation of this rule change, though I didn't expect it so quickly. Guess, I will wait until the crush of new forms is tapering off, then do my paper work for a proper sbr.

 

[BRTreedogs]

If you wanted a silencer before 2025, hope you are already in the queue.

I had a braced 9mm in my cart last night, but held off in anticipation of this rule change, though I didn't expect it so quickly. Guess, I will wait until the crush of new forms is tapering off, then do my paper work for a proper sbr.

So quickly?
This has been in the works for a year plus.

 

[wesfromky]

So quickly?
This has been in the works for a year plus.

I knew the rule was coming, I just didn't expect it today.

 

[Ferrulewax]

honestly makes absolutely no logical sense, but whatever. Neither did SBRs to begin with.

 

[Pickettpuncher]

So if I want to convert my “pistol” to an sbr, I should do now and I can skip the fee?

 

[Conrad101st]

The statement is so broad as to make one wonder that you can register any old AR as a SBR for free. My assumption is that once you apply to form 1 it on E-file within 120 days, you would be golden. I suspect they have not thought through shit and are not prepared to get hammered with 10 million applications to register lots of AR receivers into SBR.

 

[displacedtexan]

IMO, unwarranted government over reach. Now many of these type firearms are involved with illegal
actions. There is a 2A, in which I cannot find any definition as to what "kind" of firearm is included or excluded from the "right to bear arms". How did "we" ever let this Amendment get diluted; if that is the correct word. I'm not a legal nor Constitutional scholar, but, it should be pretty straight forward. The government is not a friend of the legal law abiding U.S. citizen; on many fronts.

When you say "we" do you mean the "well regulated militia"?

 

[djewell87]

So if I want to convert my “pistol” to an sbr, I should do now and I can skip the fee?

Bingo.... I don't support it, but if that's the case I'll be registering a few to save the $200 and add a few more sbrs.

 

[Pickettpuncher]

Bingo.... I don't support it, but if that's the case I'll be registering a few to save the $200 and add a few more sbrs.

Sbr designations open up possibilities

 

[sndmn11]

The statement is so broad as to make one wonder that you can register any old AR as a SBR for free. My assumption is that once you apply to form 1 it on E-file within 120 days, you would be golden. I suspect they have not thought through shit and are not prepared to get hammered with 10 million applications to register lots of AR receivers into SBR.

Is the Form 1 thing painless other than the wait? Or is this creating a trust and all that stuff?

*no, I have never researched this. I will, but just saw this thread.

 

[wesfromky]

I believe to get the free stamp, you will need photos showing the brace, or at least that is what they are saying on /r/nfa

https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/10b2cr6

 

[tdhanses]

Pretty sure this will get shot down, the bump stock rule that included braces ruled unconstitutional. I can see them saying no more AR pistols are allowed but to make an existing item illegal sounds like an over reach.

 

[tdhanses]

If you have a chassis rifle can you just add a brace and hacksaw the barrel off and get it covered as an sbr for free?

 

[id_jon]

"Oh no our agents are overrun with work processing all these form 1s, we're gonna have to hire 87,000 more atf agents."

 

[Conrad101st]

Slap the brace onto the tube and put a short upper on it.

Take 2 photos, one showing complete rig and one closeup of serial number of lower.

Do it to each lower and off we go.

I suspect that there is no rule that says you can’t use modular parts like braces and uppers on many lowers.

They probably have not thought this out. And they probably do not know the can of worms they opened up.

 

[Skinnyguts]

When you say "we" do you mean the "well regulated militia"?

I think he means “the people”. As in “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. “