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I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin

Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770′s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

What I do know is that this country was founded by people who had balls the size of Texas and Patriotic Americans take shit off of no one, especially our own government. For evidence of that, you might research the Revolutionary War. My question is how many Patriots are left?

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery.

You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?



IMPORTANT UPDATE From Dean Garrison!!! When this post originally went viral I was trying to answer every single comment and that lasted for almost 48 hours Then I came to grips with the fact that I am human and I can’t do it. If for no other reason I value my family and I can’t steal time from them to constantly be on the site. I want you all to know that I appreciate your support and good debate whether you agree or disagree. I also want to thank each and every American Patriot who has made the honorable choice to serve their country. Anyone who wants to repost this on their blog or website is also given permission to do so, so long as nothing is changed in the text of the article, and a link is provided back to this site. Again, thank you so much. I am humbled. This free wordpress blog has just gone from averaging 300 visitors per day 40,000-50,000 hits per day and I have no idea when things may return to normal. That was caused by the people that cared and not the author. I am just an average American that cares. Every Facebook share, retweet, and email is helping and please continue to support what you believe in. We make no money from this blog. We may someday, but for now it is our choice to offer the truth as we see it for the good of our country and not for anything material. Keep on sharing and let’s make them pay attention to us! No sane American really wants a Civil War. We want peace but we will not back down from a government that chooses to ignore our founding principles. I am forever in your debt and service. -Dean Garrison
 

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Good good stuff everything I feel and have tried to say my whole life, you obviously write and can express yourself much better than I can though. I am with you. I agree when push comes to shove most people will not be though, Americans have gotten way to comfortable in life and something like this would be way to disruptive to there way of life. Our government is so sneaky and sly the way they do these types of things, they chip a little away at a time and it seems as though people dont even notice they are slowly being stripped of there freedom. I had this same discussion with a friend of mine a few years ago and he said he just couldn't stand against the government like that because he had kids and a family and it was just to much to loose, I told him that that was exactly the reason he had to stand for his freedom. I hope I am wrong, I hope when it comes down to it Americans will stand up for what is ours and what those that came before us fought so hard and died for. We shall see.
 
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I wish I was articulate enough to write this... However the fellows name at the very end is who can get the credit for it.
 

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I realized that right after posting, thanks for sharing it, I think it sad no one else could comment on this, probably a little extreme for most I suppose.
 

Matt Cashell

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I think there aren't a ton of comments because a lot of folks come to rokslide to talk hunting, and not politics.

I think that political concerns in general are valid ones, and that standing up for all constitutional rights is a good cause, but there are lots of places to advocate for them other than rokslide.

That is just my opinion though.
 

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you are right Bitterroot, I always respect your opinion and listen when you start talking, and your right, this probably isn't the place for it. But, some things get me going and being as this is a issue directly related to hunting I just thought it might have gotten a little more attention.
 

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you are right Bitterroot, I always respect your opinion and listen when you start talking, and your right, this probably isn't the place for it. But, some things get me going and being as this is a issue directly related to hunting I just thought it might have gotten a little more attention.

Hunthard,

I am tentative to post anything further, and I should probably heed my own advice, but the 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting, it is about the protection of one's self, family, and country. Some gun control advocates would like to make it about hunting ... "You don't need an AR (or handgun, or 50 cal, or whatever) to hunt deer, etc." but that is not what is about, and precisely why it can and should be discussed elsewhere.

That is it for me on this though. Carry on.
 

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Unfortunately most people won't give this much thought until it is too late. There are people who are serious about taking your guns and they generally will fall into two camps: the first group is the well meaning camp that thinks that "gun control" will reduce violence and that won't be the case as documented on another thread on this site and the second group has a more sinister purpose as is expressed above. The second group is the one that all Americans needs to be concerned about as free people. BTW, the 2nd Amendment is part of the what?--Bill of Rights.. That is the rights of the people, not the government. Enough said. Yeah, I want to hunt, but I also realize that my hunting and guns are dependent upon the government in the country do the right thing. Hide your head in the sand long enough and when you poke it up, you will wonder why you didn't do anything before. Educate yourself and get involved!!!!
 
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I didn't mean it to offend or even bring up a lengthy discussion. As the title stated I thought it was a good read. You are correct in that this is a hunting site, however we as hunters and gun owners need to keep our heads out of the sand. It is not just about guns it's about our freedoms. How they restrict guns can and probably will affect our hunting.

By the way 99% of my hunting is with a bow......
 
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The fight has already started. We, The People, just have'nt begun to fight back. I hope it never becomes necessary, but I feel like there will be just enough willing Patriots, who still value our country's founding principals.
 

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Unfortunately most people won't give this much thought until it is too late. There are people who are serious about taking your guns and they generally will fall into two camps: the first group is the well meaning camp that thinks that "gun control" will reduce violence and that won't be the case as documented on another thread on this site and the second group has a more sinister purpose as is expressed above. The second group is the one that all Americans needs to be concerned about as free people. BTW, the 2nd Amendment is part of the what?--Bill of Rights.. That is the rights of the people, not the government. Enough said. Yeah, I want to hunt, but I also realize that my hunting and guns are dependent upon the government in the country do the right thing. Hide your head in the sand long enough and when you poke it up, you will wonder why you didn't do anything before. Educate yourself and get involved!!!!
Very interesting read
 
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Why people post this stuff on a hunting board is beyond me. This and the “Dead Sea Scrolls” thread are annoying.
There are other places for that stuff, don’t trash a hunting board with it.
 

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Why people post this stuff on a hunting board is beyond me. This and the “Dead Sea Scrolls” thread are annoying.
There are other places for that stuff, don’t trash a hunting board with it.
I am with you on the Dead Sea scrolls. He might as well have started that with "I saw a bird in a tree in the yard today, and the below is the message that it telepathically conveyed to me."
 

Jpickop

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Why people post this stuff on a hunting board is beyond me. This and the “Dead Sea Scrolls” thread are annoying.
There are other places for that stuff, don’t trash a hunting board with it.
Probably because hunters tend to be a subset of the gun owner population...
 
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