Non resident OTC archery elk is over in Colorado

[Jethro]

Hey hey hey, I’ve already invited @trophyhill to PA.

The difference in hunting style makes comparing elk to whitetail overcrowding impossible. CO much worse than anything I deal with on PA public land.

 

[trophyhill]

Hey hey hey, I’ve already invited @trophyhill to PA.

The difference in hunting style makes comparing elk to whitetail overcrowding impossible. CO much worse than anything I deal with on PA public land.

i hunted out of a stand in Ohio once. Here’s what I can say about it. I didn’t start hunting until I was 32. 10 years after I moved to NM from O HI O. Had I known then growing up, what I know now, I’d be in a tree stand from Sept to Jan. I thoroughly loved it. When I made a perfect shot on a forky at 14 yards, it was pretty awesome. 15 yard recovery.

Maybe it would be Oct to Jan Now that I’ve experienced Sept in the Rockies. So I get the allure. But man! The crowding has lessened the experience in the last 5 years. Here in NM when I get lucky and draw a tag, if I see 2 people on the mountain, I feel crowded. Which obviously is nothing to a CO OTC hunt.

 

[Lil-Rokslider656]

Don’t know how else states will combat point creep.

I think there will be plenty of opportunities on 1st and 2nd choice apps.

As an opportunity guy, sad to see it go.

 

[Lil-Rokslider656]

well, if it's federal lands then every tax paying hunter should have equal opportunity for hunting that land. no different than anything else that is federal property. why should it be different if you live here or there? equal taxation and equal representation. sounds pretty simple to me and what would be the argument otherwise? well, there isn't any.

I get what you’re saying.

But do you want the feds to regulate tags? They’d likely make a 1 tag per year on federal; all but eliminating most people’s opportunities to hunt out of state or multiple season.

If anyone could gum it up more than the states; it’d be the feds

 

[DanimalW]

As a non-resident, I believe they need to make non-resident rifles hunts go to draw only. If demand is as high as people say it is, people will apply for hunts and creep becomes less of an issue long-term.

Agree with this, but bummer I didn’t draw the tag I wanted this year because this will likely make next year a gamble as well.

 

[Coveyleader]

i hunted out of a stand in Ohio once. Here’s what I can say about it. I didn’t start hunting until I was 32. 10 years after I moved to NM from O HI O. Had I known then growing up, what I know now, I’d be in a tree stand from Sept to Jan. I thoroughly loved it. When I made a perfect shot on a forky at 14 yards, it was pretty awesome. 15 yard recovery.

Maybe it would be Oct to Jan Now that I’ve experienced Sept in the Rockies. So I get the allure. But man! The crowding has lessened the experience in the last 5 years. Here in NM when I get lucky and draw a tag, if I see 2 people on the mountain, I feel crowded. Which obviously is nothing to a CO OTC hunt.

Works like a charm on elk as well.

 

[trophyhill]

Don’t know how else states will combat point creep.

That's easy. Go total luck of the draw. Problem solved. No more points. Will it ever happen? Probably not.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Too many people with too many points that PAID for their points for them to disappear completely.

 

[Archer86]

I would happily let all my points go in every state to go totally random draw

 

[Jakeb]

Too many people with too many points that PAID for their points for them to disappear completely.

Easy, just stop selling points. 60/40 preference/random. Defaults to random if 60% of tags can’t be filled by pointed applicants. You wouldn’t even need to put any sort of time limit on it.

 

[squid-freshprints]

Easy, just stop selling points. 60/40 preference/random. Defaults to random if 60% of tags can’t be filled by pointed applicants. You wouldn’t even need to put any sort of time limit on it.

K.I.S.S method, too good!

 

[Lil-Rokslider656]

That's easy. Go total luck of the draw. Problem solved. No more points. Will it ever happen? Probably not.

No argument from me! Why I put in for idaho and new mexico!
But hard to convert from points to lotto. People with points would feel shorted. I don’t blame em. I think long term its the right call, but how we get there is a whole nother can of worms.

 

[Matt mi]

To the guys out east offering up whitetail spots, which state allows for the most whitetail tags for NRs? I’m good with just doe tags. I just want to take my kids hunting as much as possible.

The combo is 2 bucks one of those can be used for doe also

 

[Matt mi]

Universal tags can be used on private or public land

 

[AlphaK9]

Good to know.

 

[Chrisamx]

Don’t know how else states will combat point creep.

I think there will be plenty of opportunities on 1st and 2nd choice apps.

As an opportunity guy, sad to see it go.

Best way to deal with point creep is to not have point system in the first place.

 

[Lil-Rokslider656]

Best way to deal with point creep is to not have point system in the first place.

Couldn’t agree more. I’m a fan of idaho and New Mexico!
But what do you tell The guy with 20 points. Heck what do you tell the guy with 10 or even 5?
Again totally in agreement, i don’t think points are the answer. But how do we get rid of them?

 

[Paeast]

To the guys out east offering up whitetail spots, which state allows for the most whitetail tags for NRs? I’m good with just doe tags. I just want to take my kids hunting as much as possible.

6 anterless + 1 antlered in PA.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Tennessee All Game All Season license
Bag Limit
Antlered deer statewide - 2 (1/day)
Antlerless deer units 1/2/3 - 3/day
Antlerless deer units 4/5/6 - varies w/M.O.T.
Spring turkey statewide - 2 bearded (1/day) (only 1 can be a Jake)

$305 for NR. Have to buy an additional stamp to take the 3 does per day it's like $15 I think?

I've only turkey hunted in TN and that's the license I have to buy.