NobleSport Primers and Blackhorn

[Halligan]

Hi All,
Just started using blackhorn 209 in my own gun and was wondering if anyone had experience using noblesport primers with it. I understand that the CCI and Fed magnum primers are recommended (the hotter the better). I bring this up because during the initial 10 shots, I did have one squib on me, making me wonder if my current primers are just a tad less than needed.

The only other factor I can think of is that I'm shooting a CVA Optima V1 without a specific blackhorn breech plug.

 

[ENCORE]

You need the CVA BH209 breech plug and I would suggest magnum primers.

 

[ElDiablito]

I wouldn’t use Nobel Sport 209s - they’re relatively weak as 209s go. And get yourself the Bh209 plug.

Personally, I use nothing but Fed209As for hunting.

 

[Halligan]

@ElDiablito thank you for confirming my suspicions, figured that may be the case. I'll definitely snag some federals.

When it comes to the black horn plug though, from a quick internet search I found that unfortunately no one makes one for the original optima. From what I can gather on various searches, seems like if you use the magnums primers one should be okay with the original plug. The only other option I've seen is drilling out the plug.

 

[KnightExtreme]

Never needed a "Mag" Primer been using Fed 209A's and Win W209 with no issues but it requires a 209 Breech Plug. I would Contact CVA and see If they offer a specific 209 Breech Plug for your ML. As the shape of the plug is what helps ignite the BH 209 Powder the best.
KnightExtreme

 

[ElDiablito]

Never needed a "Mag" Primer been using Fed 209A's

Fed209As are essentially a “mag” primer

 

[KnightExtreme]

Not sure whysome add something they Are Not, If they Are "MAG" you would Think the Manufacfturer Would Give them that Distinction but they have yet to, Been in the ML world for 10 years never heard that till now. Guess It is like some that say X Sabot Bullet is a "Mag" when there is really no Muzzleloader that also does not have a "Mag" name associated with it. Odd that some give a name to something when say CCI, Win and Fed are Just 209 SHotgun Primers and came along with the Hodgdon Blackhorn Powder that is needing a a primer that will ignite that specialty podwer. The only one that are slight less are the ones that have the ML name associated like the Winchester Triple 7 versions. Which have a distinct Name on them. (Distinction) Why people think they need to give a Special word is beon me. Oh well If it were a "Magnum" Then it would have something special like a .357 or .44 not just a .38...
I will leave it to the experts. But I would Never add something that it is NOT!
Many call a Larger Primer if that as there is a different sized primers like Large Rifle Primers...
Guess I am not in the know after 10 years of Muzzleloading...
Like these see pic, (not for use with BH209) ( I will the ML converstion just be a guest here from now on...)
KnightExtreme