No refund if 23 changes to no nonresidents

[ddavis_1313]

16-22 September.

Awesome. We are set to fly out next year and get dropped off on sep 9 thru 15/17


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[Wapiti151]

Awesome. We are set to fly out next year and get dropped off on sep 9 thru 15/17


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We will probably see you at the hotel in Kotz, we get back in on the 8th

 

[Where's Bruce?]

This is why I pay via charge card, I can submit a chargeback request and get every dime back in a day. The card issuers will take one look, see their customer did nothing wrong and is getting screwed...end of argument. They side with their card holder 95+% of the time.

 

[TodOz]

We will probably see you at the hotel in Kotz, we get back in on the 8th

Might see both of you. Just moved up a week and booked for 9-16..

 

[AkRyan]

As a Alaskan I ask you to please share the info of any outfitter that won't refund if you pay in full. Deposits are just that and they shouldn't be expected to return them. Have to keep in mind it costs lots of money for them to get camp setup and have guides brought in. They can't tell there guides "sorry guys you aren't getting payed this year" when the guides have left there lives and families behind to go make money.

 

[AkRyan]

This is why I pay via charge card, I can submit a chargeback request and get every dime back in a day. The card issuers will take one look, see their customer did nothing wrong and is getting screwed...end of argument. They side with their card holder 95+% of the time.

This is 100% incorrect. If the outfitter or guide has a no refund policy in print your simply screwed. This only worked 20yrs ago

 

[LongWayAround]

As a Alaskan I ask you to please share the info of any outfitter that won't refund if you pay in full. Deposits are just that and they shouldn't be expected to return them. Have to keep in mind it costs lots of money for them to get camp setup and have guides brought in. They can't tell there guides "sorry guys you aren't getting payed this year" when the guides have left there lives and families behind to go make money.

I don't know who the OP talked to, but my take is this post is in reference to transporters. No guides and no camps provided. They told me I could ask for my deposit back from the subsistence board. I said put me on the books and sent my check.

This thread is even parts people who understand the issues and risks at hand and people who are throwing in their two cents who don't have a handle on the options.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

This is 100% incorrect. If the outfitter or guide has a no refund policy in print your simply screwed. This only worked 20yrs ago

If you knew you knew nothing about such CC transactions, that would be something. A no refund policy doesn't mean squat if the contract is deemed in breach which is exactly the case here. The hunter cannot hunt the species contracted, therefore he has no obligation to pay anything because he is not responsible for the breach. Neither is the outfitter but the merchant account contract leans heavily in the cardholder's favor. If you had a merchant acct you'd know this. I have two now and have had several over the past 40 years. A merchant cannot keep money if they are unable to fulfil the contract for almost ANY REASON. Invariably it is the business that takes the hit in a chargeback of this type, not the consumer.

 

[AkRyan]

If you knew you knew nothing about such CC transactions, that would be something. A no refund policy doesn't mean squat if the contract is deemed in breach which is exactly the case here. The hunter cannot hunt the species contracted, therefore he has no obligation to pay anything because he is not responsible for the breach. Neither is the outfitter but the merchant account contract leans heavily in the cardholder's favor. If you had a merchant acct you'd know this. I have two now and have had several over the past 40 years. A merchant cannot keep money if they are unable to fulfil the contract for almost ANY REASON. Invariably it is the business that takes the hit in a chargeback of this type, not the consumer.

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Ok bub do you then lol not my money

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Ok bub do you then lol not my money

 

[AkRyan]

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How old are you? My guess early 20's

 

[Aubs8]

So me and my crew just purchased trip insurance for next years hunt in case the they try and succeed to shut the units down again. I think it was something like 260, covers multiple contingencies and regulation changes roughly 7% to guarantee not fitting with an outfitter/bush pilot.

Honestly, I’m not particularly worried about next year. I think after what i heard listening to the meeting if they want a serious shot of shutting down the units to caribou they are gonna have to have multiple years data to show a clear trend, which they currently do not have.


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[VernAK]

This attempt at closing hunting areas to out-of-area hunters is not new. The idea resurfaces in a different area nearly every year and usually has the support of our Senator Murkowski.

All of this was to be solved forty years ago with passage of ANILCA......native land claims settlement act.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

How old are you? My guess early 20's

Apparent reading comprehension disability.

 

[AkRyan]

Apparent reading comprehension disability.

Maybe you should try acting your age! I guess early 20s since you have such a love for memes. Do you have tiktok? I will have my kids follow you.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Maybe you should try acting your age! I guess early 20s since you have such a love for memes. Do you have tiktok? I will have my kids follow you.

Ignoring you permanently now so rokslide doesn't become a...