Nightforce NX6 Lineup

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Looking at a reticle graphic against a blank background isn’t that helpful. You really need to overlay it over something useful.

I present FC-MRx and a hotdog sandwich -

 

[tony]

My favorite!

 

[Coopsdaddy]

so does this mean used NXS scopes will go up or down in value....?

Up i bet

 

[BAKPAKR]

Looking at a reticle graphic against a blank background isn’t that helpful. You really need to overlay it over something useful.

I present FC-MRx and a hotdog sandwich -

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If that was a real hotdog (must be topped with beanless chili), you wouldn’t be able to see the center of the illuminated reticle at all!

 

[gut_pile]

Is a hotdog a sandwich?

 

[eLightfoot]

then we have that version available ...

Ehhh what are you talking about. The 4ai is a plain German 4, 2FP moa reticle.

 

[ddowning]

No one that holds over in competition wins. You dial elevation, and hold wind just like everywhere else.

I've been out of it for a couple years, but everyone that could place toward the top could dial 9 or 10 times in a 90 second stage and do well. The only time any of us held over was on enormous targets or when the cof forced it. I'm not sure if there are uses in military applications, but in hunting/prs shooting there are better methods than hold over.

Already answered, but no. No one is holding over and winning in matches. The reticle was not optimized for anything except to please the “gas gun” shooters that don’t actually use them.

The problem is, most people that buy this stuff don't actually shoot. I got into it with the engineers at a large optics company about how their most expensive scope couldn't hold zero for a car ride in a pelican case (guess who). They told me, "No one else is complaining."

I asked, "No, one, or just less than 1%?"
They responded, "Well....silence."
That's what I thought. The <1% that actually use their stuff are having problems, but the status symbol owners love them and have no problems.
They basically told me it doesn't materially effect sales so piss off. I brought it up in a group of sponsored shooters after a match. They were all feeling the same after the next scope was released with the same problems. All but one of them were going to jump ship. Maybe it effected sales, maybe it didn't. Who knows? YouTube marketing is powerful.

TLDR: All product decisions are about $$$,$$$ or $,$$$,$$$ for these companies.

 

[WRO]

Is a hotdog a sandwich?

It’s a pizza at the the nf reticle design studio.


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[wind gypsy]

LiGhTwEiGhT aNd cOmPaCt - it’s an ounce lighter than the 4-32 NX8 and a half inch longer.

I think that's pretty good for a reliable 3-18x50. It's shorter/lighter than the NXS 3.5-15x50. I'd not want to lose any mounting length on the scope tube to make it shorter and hopefully it makes for a less finicky scope setup than a super compact one.

 

[medvedyt]

Ehhh what are you talking about. The 4ai is a plain German 4, 2FP moa reticle.

well you wanted a mil ffp one with a different reticle, you still have other german builders that might offer it. for the kind of hunts im doing and some others that contacted nightforce customer service: we were heard ... for long range shooting i have other options so im not worried but each case and hunter is different on their needs.

 

[260284]

example? Every ffp reticle I have ever seen disappears at low mag ranges unless you turn on the illum.

Bushnell LRHS and LRHS2.

 

[Formidilosus]

I saw that you posted that the S2H scope needs to be tested first, and the way it was worded didn’t inspire confidence that it was going to be a first round success.

Oh that’s just me expecting everything to fail, and not counting chickens before they hatch. The most likely scenario is that they do work.

Before NF released the nx6, there really wasn’t an F1 scope to use the thlr reticle in, because the f1 nxs was permanently discontinued. Now at least there is a decent host for that reticle.

Not to belabor the point, but the first scope that was put forth to put the TLHR in was the 4-16x44mm ATACR (which would still be my preference). Then the SHV 4-14x F1, then the 4-32x NX8. Beyond that, multiple entities/people have tried to have real talks about getting a simple, very bold reticle like a modified MLR or Mil dot put in.

I hope you can get them to make a proper bold hunting reticle, and I/we would happily help if you wanted. I just don’t know at this point if the THLR is the way I would go.
I say that because most of the people that would be interested in a near $2k scope with THLR just bought a bunch of ZP5’s, and there is about to be a $1k option.

If you get NF to put a THLR in the 2-12x or 3-18x- I’ll buy the first one however.

 

[eLightfoot]

NF would have to come out with 2-12 Thlr or similar FFP mil reticle at a $1200 price point to really get most people serious about one. I think a $2k +- price kills off most the hunting market pool. For the majority of hunters $1k is a tough pill to swallow

 

[freddyG]

Oh that’s just me expecting everything to fail, and not counting chickens before they hatch. The most likely scenario is that they do work.




Not to belabor the point, but the first scope that was put forth to put the TLHR in was the 4-16x44mm ATACR (which would still be my preference). Then the SHV 4-14x F1, then the 4-32x NX8. Beyond that, multiple entities/people have tried to have real talks about getting a simple, very bold reticle like a modified MLR or Mil dot put in.

I hope you can get them to make a proper bold hunting reticle, and I/we would happily help if you wanted. I just don’t know at this point if the THLR is the way I would go.
I say that because most of the people that would be interested in a near $2k scope with THLR just bought a bunch of ZP5’s, and there is about to be a $1k option.

If you get NF to put a THLR in the 2-12x or 3-18x- I’ll buy the first one however.

The 4-16 ATACR was my preference too, but I know that the market for a 30 oz. 34mm tube scope that costs $2500+ wasn’t/isn’t very big. I have zero interest in the SHV or NX8 line.

To me, it seems like there would be greater interest in a 23 oz. 30mm tubed, 2-12 scope with a decent hunting reticle, but it seems like everyone has something to complain about, and different wants/needs, especially with an $1800 price.

It’s probably going to take a 500-1k scope demand to achieve anything. I’d be curious to know what Mavens 1.2 RS sales were initially.

 

[slowelk]

The 4-16 ATACR was my preference too, but I know that the market for a 30 oz. 34mm tube scope that costs $2500+ wasn’t/isn’t very big. I have zero interest in the SHV or NX8 line.

To me, it seems like there would be greater interest in a 23 oz. 30mm tubed, 2-12 scope with a decent hunting reticle, but it seems like everyone has something to complain about, and different wants/needs, especially with an $1800 price.

It’s probably going to take a 500-1k scope demand to achieve anything. I’d be curious to know what Mavens 1.2 RS sales were initially.

Yes, the 2-12 is the ideal candidate for a better reticle.

I would imagine Rokslide generated more than 500-1,000 RS1.2 sales.

 

[43.6N]

The 4-16 ATACR was my preference too, but I know that the market for a 30 oz. 34mm tube scope that costs $2500+ wasn’t/isn’t very big. I have zero interest in the SHV or NX8 line.

To me, it seems like there would be greater interest in a 23 oz. 30mm tubed, 2-12 scope with a decent hunting reticle, but it seems like everyone has something to complain about, and different wants/needs, especially with an $1800 price.

It’s probably going to take a 500-1k scope demand to achieve anything. I’d be curious to know what Mavens 1.2 RS sales were initially.

If Rokstok sales, SWFA 3-9 and 6x sales, and initial Maven 1.2 mil reticle sales are/were any indicator (all were sold out at one point, and Swfa currently is sold out), once this community identifies a worthwhile product, there IS more than enough volume. There are probably more examples that I am missing.

Complaints and criticism in the past pages aside. This is a consistent track record of purchases that a company should capitalize on.

 

[eric1115]

I present FC-MRx and a hotdog sandwich -

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Isn't that like saying ATM machine or PIN number? The sandwich part is already included since a hotdog clearly IS a sandwich.

 

[Formidilosus]

To me, it seems like there would be greater interest in a 23 oz. 30mm tubed, 2-12 scope with a decent hunting reticle,

It would sell. But everyone is apparently scared to just make a run of simple, clean, bold, mil reticles. Even though the closest scope to get it right- Maven RS1.2 sold like gamgbusters.

but it seems like everyone has something to complain about, and different wants/needs, especially with an $1800 price.

Ehh. Mostly it’s just dudes with poorly thought out wish lists. 6 months ago a 2-12x NX6 with an old school mil dot would have sold.

It’s probably going to take a 500-1k scope demand to achieve anything.
I’d be curious to know what Mavens 1.2 RS sales were initially.

Way beyond 500. But, that’s a large number for $2,000 scopes.

 

[dårlig jeger]

It would sell. But everyone is apparently scared to just make a run of simple, clean, bold, mil reticles. Even though the closest scope to get it right- Maven RS1.2 sold like gamgbusters.





Ehh. Mostly it’s just dudes with poorly thought out wish lists. 6 months ago a 2-12x NX6 with an old school mil dot would have sold.




Way beyond 500. But, that’s a large number for $2,000 scopes.

Have you also approached Trijicon? It seems like the 3-18 tenmile with a hunting reticle would also be a hot ticket, but it's essentially the same scope as the rs1.2?

 

[Formidilosus]

Have you also approached Trijicon? It seems like the 3-18 tenmile with a hunting reticle would also be a hot ticket, but it's essentially the same scope as the rs1.2?

They were asked before the Tenmile. Again, not much interest. This all comes down to- the people making the decisions, do not actually hunt.