New world record archery bull

[LongWayAround]

So is hunting a water hole fair chase or an alfalfa field or a food plot or a corn field what about an apple tree that is just dropping apples off it. It’s all the same thing as dumping out a bucket of apples just on a larger scale your using something the animal needs to kill it which is the goal of hunting.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

 

[Plague]

Yaki-soba is a Korean beef dish

It is not.

 

[Hnthrdr]

It is not.

Tomato/Potatoe man…

 

[WRO]

I guess the pictures with the Christmas lights look pretty neighborhoody... I am admittedly unfamiliar with the area.

I haven't thought any one in this thread was jealous of it. There's significant difference between jealousy and disapproval.

When these things appear questionable and get publicized to great extents, it's a bad look. If that guy had kept it low-key, very few people would know and there would be no scrutiny. Instead, he greenlights his insta kid to post it with a bunch of tags, does OL articles, and podcast about it.

Like I said, I'm sure he's a nice guy, this just seems like a weird scenario to publicize.

Bull was wandering after getting bumped out of its usual hideouts twice. It’s a rural area with cabins and 10-60 acre lots, lots of guys feed there.

If that bull would’ve not been the world record, no one would’ve heard about it except Casey’s close friends.

He kills a lot of critters that never see the screens of the internet.

 

[Jethro]

It’s all the same thing as dumping out a bucket of apples

Most of us are able to recognize a discernible difference between a water hole or crop field and a bucket of apples.

 

[Plague]

Tomato/Potatoe man

Not really. But you do you. I corrected someone for referring to a city when they had intended to refer to the tribe. You seem to take enough issue with it to make what appears to be a bad joke.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Not really. But you do you. I corrected someone for referring to a city when they had intended to refer to the tribe. You seem to take enough issue with it to make what appears to be a bad joke.

Just adding to the spirit of this entire thread, which is dumb and silly, with some light hearted yaki-talk, I’m sorry if it has offended your town, or tribe. We can do a land acknowledgment if that makes you feel better?

 

[WRO]

Most of us are able to recognize a discernible difference between a water hole or crop field and a bucket of apples.

Having attempted unsuccessfully to bait elk and deer in Oregon and Washington a few times, I’ll take a waterhole or alfalfa field 10 out of 10 times over a bait pile.

People who think it’s cheating most of the time have never done it.

 

[TheTone]

Back to back 400s in Idaho a couple years ago too.

High 380’s and one in the 400’s. They were the same year with the same outfitter

 

[Plague]

Just adding to the spirit of this entire thread, which is dumb and silly, with some light hearted yaki-talk, I’m sorry if it has offended your town, or tribe. We can do a land acknowledgment if that makes you feel better?

I’m not offended. I think you mistook my point. Keep your edge sharp, Lord.

 

[Marble]

what a bunch of elitist self-righteous blowhards on this thread. wash and oregon allow baiting. so what? so do a lot of other states. get over it. it is legal elk that took the dude the whole season to shoot so it couldn't have been to easy. it will probably be crowned the world record. if i had that kind of money i would be a huntin fool too.

Reading this thread, I've felt the same way. Therehas been guys here unhappy or however you want to describe it, because he has money. Also because he hunted over bait and used cameras and a team of people to help him. All of this stuff is legal, not immoral or IMO unethical.

If people don't like the way this animal was killed, then lobby to get laws changed. But even if the laws stay the same, it won't effect anyone here hunting in that state. It's your choice to use a camera, or bait.

I can't count how many times someone on here has something negative to say about this guy because he has some money. Quite disappointing. He must be evil because he accumulated some wealth. Or he must have cheated somehow.

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[naneumranch]

Having attempted unsuccessfully to bait elk and deer in Oregon and Washington a few times, I’ll take a waterhole or alfalfa field 10 out of 10 times over a bait pile.

People who think it’s cheating most of the time have never done it.

This is true during a regular hunting season, but unfortunately, in Kittitas and Yakima counties we have democratic Elk the first snowfall hits, and they all show up to the lowland feeding stations and private for a free handout, which makes it easy to hunt off bait if you have a special or a late tag.


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[Coveyleader]

The guy knows how to hunt, no doubt about that. Elk killer for sure. You can't argue that. Anyone who kills the NA29 with a bow is not a rookie no matter how much money they have. That is a tremendous feat.

My only turn off with guys like him are the continuous rant about scores. When it becomes the primary topic of discussion, I have to admit, I was getting bored with the podcast (I was on a 8 hour flight). I've been around guys like that at banquets, camps, etc. and it really sours me.

 

[KurtR]

Most of us are able to recognize a discernible difference between a water hole or crop field and a bucket of apples.

That’s just because you want to justify it to your self. If you look at it from an objective view point there is no difference. It’s using some thing to gain an advantage to kill an animal.

 

[velvet muley]

That’s just because you want to justify it to your self. If you look at it from an objective view point there is no difference. It’s using some thing to gain an advantage to kill an animal.

So just to clarify, you're saying that a watering hole in an animals natural habitat (say on forest service land) and a bucket of apples/hay put out in a subdivision on private property in a wintering ground is the same thing?

 

[KurtR]

So just to clarify, you're saying that a watering hole in an animals natural habitat (say on forest service land) and a bucket of apples/hay put out in a subdivision on private property in a wintering ground is the same thing?

Yep with the water hole being a far superior use especially if water is in short supply

 

[velvet muley]

I’ve heard some pretty interesting arguments and controversial opinions before when it comes to hunting, but this one has to be at the top of the list. That is nothing short of delusional.

 

[Pacific_Fork]

Guys I have to admit just how jealous I really am. So here goes…

I’m extremely jealous and even bitter that the world record bull was take with a bow…..a few years ago on MT public land in its natural environment by a blue collar sportsmen using fair chase methods.

That hunt will go down in history, this baited yard bull chillin on winter range killed by having deep pockets, and yes determination/hard work no doubt, will not be remembered the same as the MT bull. And he didn’t need a podcast tour with 70 promoters tagged in an instagram post ( I know someone is going to spend their time searching). He showed more humility.

Another important point that needs to be recognized by everyone is how this is bad for hunting access to private. I’d bet my house that land owner never lets anyone ever hunt his property again after all the publicity and blowback from the internet and their own neighborhood. And other landowners across the west will take notice. This is why instafame hunters are killing the lifestyle for us all, social media, bragging, etc.