New world record archery bull

[dirtshooter]

Does pope and young allow animals to be entered if they are photographed with trail cams? Something about fair chase etc?

 

[Scottyboy]

Does pope and young allow animals to be entered if they are photographed with trail cams? Something about fair chase etc?

Being that “his wife fills the freezer and he fills the walls” would lend me to believe he knows all of the nuance to get his name printed..

And thanks for not asking how or why I stuck out the 2.5hr cam podcast/circle jerk on how awesome we are

 

[BBob]

Does pope and young allow animals to be entered if they are photographed with trail cams? Something about fair chase etc?

Regular cameras are considered fair chase but realtime notification cameras (cell, wireless) are not considered fair chase.

 

[Muleyczy]

I didn’t read every post, and maybe it’s been said, but dang 86 bulls. If the guys 60, and started bow hunting when he was 20, that’s and average of 2 bulls a year for 40 years!

 

[Maverick1]

To me it is a disgraceful ending to that impressive elk, Stayed alive all his life during the season on public land, not even a gang of "hunters" with trail cameras everywhere and nothing but time could get him killed. Had to do it in a subdivision in his winter ground over apples and hay, while neighbors were feeding him to keep him around to enjoy the wildlife viewing.

Don't understand how people get gratification or a feeling of accomplishment out of that, IMO most true sportsman would only get a sense of guilt.

CJ Alexander would be down with it. But he’s a convicted poacher.

 

[BBob]

I didn’t read every post, and maybe it’s been said, but dang 86 bulls. If the guys 60, and started bow hunting when he was 20, that’s and average of 2 bulls a year for 40 years!

In AZ in '94 he killed a 412 net public, '97 412 gross public, '97 386 gross Rez. His dad killed a 424 gross bull in '97 on the Rez. That's just few pulled out of an old elk book, there are many more. He didn't just kill on the Rez, he's well known for hunting public all over the west for years.

 

[Timberline001]

In AZ in '94 he killed a 412 net public, '97 412 gross public, '97 386 gross Rez. His dad killed a 424 gross bull in '97 on the Rez. That's just few pulled out of an old elk book, there are many more. He didn't just kill on the Rez, he's well known for hunting public all over the west for years.

Back to back 400s in Idaho a couple years ago too.

 

[LongWayAround]

what a bunch of elitist self-righteous blowhards on this thread. wash and oregon allow baiting. so what? so do a lot of other states. get over it. it is legal elk that took the dude the whole season to shoot so it couldn't have been to easy. it will probably be crowned the world record. if i had that kind of money i would be a huntin fool too.

Nothing self-righteous here ...


I see your last post was in favor of banning trail cameras. Is it different when a rich guy puts out a shitload of cameras to track a specific animal? What about when said rich guy uses a trail camera image to mislead a landowner in order to shoot a big animal over a bucket of apples?

By the way, legal or not, baiting is in no way fair chase.

 

[Muley Tag]

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Nothing self-righteous here ...


I see your last post was in favor of banning trail cameras. Is it different when a rich guy puts out a shitload of cameras to track a specific animal? What about when said rich guy uses a trail camera image to mislead a landowner in order to shoot a big animal over a bucket of apples?

By the way, legal or not, baiting is in no way fair chase.

re-read your answer. it is self-righteous.

I don't personally like cell cameras on public land or baiting either. but not because i don't think it's fair chase i don't like it placed on public land. it sounds like a lot of jealousy on your part because this dude has money and hunts a lot with it. you shouldn't care what others do as long as it's legal. if you don't like it then dont do it.

 

[Eagle]

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Nothing self-righteous here ...


I see your last post was in favor of banning trail cameras. Is it different when a rich guy puts out a shitload of cameras to track a specific animal? What about when said rich guy uses a trail camera image to mislead a landowner in order to shoot a big animal over a bucket of apples?

By the way, legal or not, baiting is in no way fair chase.

In Casey's defense, this is his hunter/influencer/world championship caller son's post, so it's the kids job to promote like crazy.

My favorite part of the podcast was when they were talking about the best way to ensure hunting continues, and Casey said we have to be considerate of each other.

Then, in the next segment, he talked about how he hunted the same ram the governors tag holder had and was in the middle of the rams with his bow opening morning knowing a rifle hunter was targeting the same group at the same time. Real considerate there.

 

[LongWayAround]

re-read your answer. it is self-righteous.

I don't personally like cell cameras on public land or baiting either. but not because i don't think it's fair chase i don't like it placed on public land. it sounds like a lot of jealousy on your part because this dude has money and hunts a lot with it. you shouldn't care what others do as long as it's legal. if you don't like it then dont do it.

The insta post is self-righteous. I guess you missed that. I do realize it's his son's page, either way it's attention seeking.

My answer to what? I wasn't asked a question.

Yea... Super jealous here. Sure I wish I had unlimited money to go hunt. I couldn't care less about his accolades. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I probably wouldn't tell the world how I killed a well known bull in a neighborhood.

"Shouldn't care as long as it's legal" is really a terrible perspective.

Enjoy.

 

[Muleyczy]

In AZ in '94 he killed a 412 net public, '97 412 gross public, '97 386 gross Rez. His dad killed a 424 gross bull in '97 on the Rez. That's just few pulled out of an old elk book, there are many more. He didn't just kill on the Rez, he's well known for hunting public all over the west for years.

Impressive no doubt.

 

[WRO]

The insta post is self-righteous. I guess you missed that. I do realize it's his son's page, either way it's attention seeking.

My answer to what? I wasn't asked a question.

Yea... Super jealous here. Sure I wish I had unlimited money to go hunt. I couldn't care less about his accolades. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I probably wouldn't tell the world how I killed a well known bull in a neighborhood.

"Shouldn't care as long as it's legal" is really a terrible perspective.

Enjoy.

The whole well known neighborhood bull is a weird call. A nearly 500” neighborhood bull wild have a pile of pictures out there, there’s not very many. The guy who got its sheds, picked them up off public and had the bull on camera and feed for 45 days leading up to him dropping them. The camera’s Casey had up on national forest showed him there most of the season.

So it seems disgruntled neighbor is making up a narrative, that people want to believe because it reinforces their jealousy, because there doesn’t seem to allot of evidence to support that claim.

 

[Plague]

WDFW cant do a dammed thing about it, its out of their jurisdiction. The tribes dont police their own either. It is pointless when you know whos doing it. The guys accidently shooting a non true spike arent cutting the head off and running. You and I both know that.

That jackass got the feed station shut down for shooting the elk in front of the general public spectators. Guys a clown and known all around the region for his antics. The irony of him calling out Casey Brooks is hilarious.

Cant wait till this fall to see pickup trucks of branch antler bulls pulled from quality units by the Yakimas.

I think you mean Yakama. Yakima is a city.

 

[LongWayAround]

The whole well known neighborhood bull is a weird call. A nearly 500” neighborhood bull wild have a pile of pictures out there, there’s not very many. The guy who got its sheds, picked them up off public and had the bull on camera and feed for 45 days leading up to him dropping them. The camera’s Casey had up on national forest showed him there most of the season.

So is it a disgruntled neighbor making up a narrative, that people want to believe because it reinforces their jealousy, because there doesn’t seem to allot of evidence to support that claim.

I guess the pictures with the Christmas lights look pretty neighborhoody... I am admittedly unfamiliar with the area.

I haven't thought any one in this thread was jealous of it. There's significant difference between jealousy and disapproval.

When these things appear questionable and get publicized to great extents, it's a bad look. If that guy had kept it low-key, very few people would know and there would be no scrutiny. Instead, he greenlights his insta kid to post it with a bunch of tags, does OL articles, and podcast about it.

Like I said, I'm sure he's a nice guy, this just seems like a weird scenario to publicize.

 

[Timberline001]

I think you mean Yakama. Yakima is a city.

Also the name of the tribe.

 

[KurtR]

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Nothing self-righteous here ...


I see your last post was in favor of banning trail cameras. Is it different when a rich guy puts out a shitload of cameras to track a specific animal? What about when said rich guy uses a trail camera image to mislead a landowner in order to shoot a big animal over a bucket of apples?

By the way, legal or not, baiting is in no way fair chase.

So is hunting a water hole fair chase or an alfalfa field or a food plot or a corn field what about an apple tree that is just dropping apples off it. It’s all the same thing as dumping out a bucket of apples just on a larger scale your using something the animal needs to kill it which is the goal of hunting.

 

[Plague]

Also the name of the tribe.

Yakama is the tribe. Yakima is the city. Lived in Harrah for a while.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Yaki-soba is a Korean beef dish

 

[LongWayAround]

So is hunting a water hole fair chase or an alfalfa field or a food plot or a corn field what about an apple tree that is just dropping apples off it. It’s all the same thing as dumping out a bucket of apples just on a larger scale your using something the animal needs to kill it which is the goal of hunting.

I wholeheartedly disagree.