New Vortex Talon 10k RF Binos

[chrisdixon1]

I haven’t seen this mentioned here yet. Anybody know if this is legit? The idea of an improved Fury 5000 with UHD glass sounds great. One can hope at least

 

[JGRaider]

I'd say there's a high probability it will happen. I know I was told there would be a replacement after first of the year that included Geoballistics, improved ergos, a 12x option, and Razor HD glass.

 

[grfox92]

What does the Vortex UHD glass compare to, say against Maven, Swaro?

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[JGRaider]

I haven’t seen this mentioned here yet. Anybody know if this is legit? The idea of an improved Fury 5000 with UHD glass sounds great. One can hope at least

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Is this some sort of catalog, or what?

 

[chrisdixon1]

Honestly not sure. Saw it posted on another forum. That’s why I was asking here if anyone had anymore info. I trust roksliders a bit more.

I can’t speak to UHd vs alpha glass. But I can say the glass is tremendously better than the Fury/Vipers.

 

[JGRaider]

Honestly not sure. Saw it posted on another forum. That’s why I was asking here if anyone had anymore info. I trust roksliders a bit more.

I can’t speak to UHd vs alpha glass. But I can’t say the glass is tremendously better than the Fury/Vipers.

I can say this for sure........and I have the Fury AB too.
JGRaider said:
I have a Meostar HD, Gold Ring HD, SLC, ELSV, and 8x32 UHD. The FOV in the UHD blows them all away, it's sharp to 90% of the field, it's very well made, super sharp optics, everything works very smoothly. It takes a back seat to none of my others. The one for sale here under $1000 is a steal.

 

[chrisdixon1]

Dang auto correct. I fixed my post above to I can say the uhds are tremendously better than the Fury/viper. I talked to someone in MT this year that just went from UHds to ELs. He said he liked the swaros better, but they were close.

For what you can get UHds for used, I am not sure they can be beat.

 

[nobody]

What does the Vortex UHD glass compare to, say against Maven, Swaro?

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To my eyes, superior to the SLC‘s. No field flattener like in the Maven B2’s and modern Swaro offerings, so also superior to all those options as well for my eyes (yes, that includes the NL’s). Definitely an Alpha performance grade optic. If Swaro had revamped the SLC’s to these and called them the SLC2.0, everybody would lump them into the “Swaro, Leica, Zeiss” bubble conversation. Top shelf optics, without question.

 

[grfox92]

To my eyes, superior to the SLC‘s. No field flattener like in the Maven B2’s and modern Swaro offerings, so also superior to all those options as well for my eyes (yes, that includes the NL’s). Definitely an Alpha performance grade optic. If Swaro had revamped the SLC’s to these and called them the SLC2.0, everybody would lump them into the “Swaro, Leica, Zeiss” bubble conversation. Top shelf optics, without question.

I wonder what these new binos will be priced at. Im still waiting on Maven to release theirs. Before I make a decision on RF Binos. Ad of now the Leica Geovids are first on my list.

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[JLH3]

I have SLC 15’s and UHD 10x42’s. I think they’re pretty much equal. I’ve never looked through NL’s but I have used my dad’s older Geovids. I like the UHD’s better.

 

[alexnelon]

Clarity and resolution is one thing. They're all fairly close at the top.

I HATE the pink glass in Vortex UHDs. They have the worst color rendering of any major brand.

I know they say it helps with overall performance or whatever but I just can't stand to look through them.

I'm interested to see if they can pull off using their pink tint UHD glass in LRF binos though or if they'll use something else.

 

[JGRaider]

Clarity and resolution is one thing. They're all fairly close at the top.

I HATE the pink glass in Vortex UHDs. They have the worst color rendering of any major brand.

I know they say it helps with overall performance or whatever but I just can't stand to look through them.

I'm interested to see if they can pull off using their pink tint UHD glass in LRF binos though or if they'll use something else.

Not sure if you've looked through them after that comment. I find them to be a touch more accurate than my 2 SLC's actually, and there's zero "pink" tint when looking through them. They are equally as sharp and contrasty as the SLC's as well.

FYI, the new Talon will be Razor HD glass, which are excellent as well.

 

[Deadfall]

What does the Vortex UHD glass compare to, say against Maven, Swaro?

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It dont! Never has never will. Closer to Nixon on comparison scale. Bushnell perhaps

 

[alexnelon]

I find them to be a touch more accurate than my 2 SLC's actually, and there's zero "pink" tint when looking through them.

Yeah I hear this a lot from older people.

Vortex adds in the extra violet tint because as we age, our corneal lenses yellow which makes it harder to distinguish blue, green, and violet.

Old people spend the most money on binoculars, so Vortex adds in extra violet to their most expensive glass to make the green and brown easier to distinguish for people who are losing their color vision.

I can still see all my colors, so it looks awful.

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

For me, 12x Razor HD or UHD glass would be a no brainer. Outside the Leica and Swaro EL, optics on these rangefinding binos have been subpar and electronics warranties on all of them have been subpar at best. A vortex razor option would be awesome.

 

[waspocrew]

Never seen pink tint in my UHDs. Cool to see more RF binos hit the market. I have the new Revics and they’ve been excellent.

 

[nobody]

It dont! Never has never will. Closer to Nixon on comparison scale. Bushnell perhaps

Tell us you’ve never looked through a pair without actually saying saying you’ve never looked through a pair…

 

[nobody]

Yeah I hear this a lot from older people.

Vortex adds in the extra violet tint because as we age, our corneal lenses yellow which makes it harder to distinguish blue, green, and violet.

Old people spend the most money on binoculars, so Vortex adds in extra violet to their most expensive glass to make the green and brown easier to distinguish for people who are losing their color vision.

I can still see all my colors, so it looks awful.

What about those of us who aren’t “older” people (barely crossed into my 30’s personally) who agree 110% with @JGRaider assessment?

I’ve heard lots of people refer to Vortex glass as having a blue/green hue, but pink is a descriptor out of left field. Having compared multiple pairs of them in different configurations (10x42 & 50, 12x50) against NL’s, EL’s, and several pairs of Mavens in waning light and harsh conditions (glassing towards the setting sun with snow on the ground), the word “pink” would never have entered my vernacular under any circumstances.

How much time have you spent behind UHD’s and compared against the competition?

EDIT TO ADD: My statement and subsequent question are legit a legit, not meant to be confrontational. With the exception of lots ignorant people, I’ve never heard anyone who spent any type of legit time behind UHD’s say anything close to what you’re saying, so I’m interested to hear your real life assessments is all.

 

[alexnelon]

What about those of us who aren’t “older” people (barely crossed into my 30’s personally) who agree 110% with @JGRaider assessment?

I’ve heard lots of people refer to Vortex glass as having a blue/green hue, but pink is a descriptor out of left field. Having compared multiple pairs of them in different configurations (10x42 & 50, 12x50) against NL’s, EL’s, and several pairs of Mavens in waning light and harsh conditions (glassing towards the setting sun with snow on the ground), the word “pink” would never have entered my vernacular under any circumstances.

How much time have you spent behind UHD’s and compared against the competition?

EDIT TO ADD: My statement and subsequent question are legit a legit, not meant to be confrontational. With the exception of lots ignorant people, I’ve never heard anyone who spent any type of legit time behind UHD’s say anything close to what you’re saying, so I’m interested to hear your real life assessments is all.

I’ve spent quite a bit of time behind them but it only takes half a second to notice the unnatural pink hue they cast over everything (if your eyes can see it, I guess)

The longer you look through them, the less you notice it. But even compared to much lower-quality glass, the colors appear brighter, but less natural.

Granted, no two people see colors the same, and 10% of men have some degree of colorblindness, but it’s very very obvious to me looking through the razor uhd glass that every green or blue has more violet than it does in real life.

This is a common thing though, I’m not very original.

Vortex UHD is pink
Zeiss is blue
Leica and Swaro are yellow
Kowa is green

 

[nobody]

I’ve spent quite a bit of time behind them but it only takes half a second to notice the unnatural pink hue they cast over everything (if your eyes can see it, I guess)

The longer you look through them, the less you notice it. But even compared to much lower-quality glass, the colors appear brighter, but less natural.

Granted, no two people see colors the same, and 10% of men have some degree of colorblindness, but it’s very very obvious to me looking through the razor uhd glass that every green or blue has more violet than it does in real life.

This is a common thing though, I’m not very original.

Vortex UHD is pink
Zeiss is blue
Leica and Swaro are yellow
Kowa is green

Wow, Interesting. You are the only person I’ve ever heard describe the UHD as “pink” in any circle. Not saying you’re wrong, but it’s definitely odd based on my own assessments as well as a large constituent of people I’ve spent time with/spoken to. What I’ve always heard and experienced is as follows:

UHD: Blue-ish
Zeiss: Yellow
Leica: Vibrant and True to Life
Maven: Flat/Grey, but still relatively true to life.
Swaro and Meopta: Green

All of us in central Utah must all have the same level of color blindness, because these are consistent descriptors amongst the guys I have talked to and spent time with. Must be all those darn funeral potatoes and green jell-o.