New Ruger American Gen II

[Snailz]

I have a gen 1 in .308 Predator, I missed a cow elk last weekend when I shouldn't have. I went to check zero with my last remaining 6 rounds I had loaded which was 178gr ELDM over IMR4895. The scope had in fact lost zero. But the gun printed a 3/4" (measured) 6 shot group at 100 yards. No one can say they aren't accurate.

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If you want to keep things budget, Blackhound ran several sales last year where things were 45% off. Who tee who had a code for an extra 10%. Got the genesis 6-24 x 50 for like $210. That’s with decent rings included. Be patient and I’m sure they’ll run another one fairly soon.

 

[grfox92]

If you want to keep things budget, Blackhound ran several sales last year where things were 45% off. Who tee who had a code for an extra 10%. Got the genesis 6-24 x 50 for like $210. That’s with decent rings included. Be patient and I’m sure they’ll run another one fairly soon.

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[grfox92]

If you want to keep things budget, Blackhound ran several sales last year where things were 45% off. Who tee who had a code for an extra 10%. Got the genesis 6-24 x 50 for like $210. That’s with decent rings included. Be patient and I’m sure they’ll run another one fairly soon.

Sorry this came across like a spam post.

Never heard of Blackhound. No idea anything about their reliability, definetly wouldn't buy one until they have been tried and tested.

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[Snailz]

Sorry this came across like a spam post.

Never heard of Blackhound. No idea anything about their reliability, definetly wouldn't buy one until they have been tried and tested.

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Look them up then? They’re a pretty well known optics company at this point. I figure if you’re taking an RA out in the field, you’re not looking to mount an $800+ scope on it. Blackhound genesis are a pretty run of the mill budget target scope (~$400) that are similar to the base level arken scopes. But Blackhound is the only one I’ve seen running that big of a sale and at $200-250 they blow everything in that price range out of the water. For that much of a sale you can go up a product tier if you want something lighter for mountain hunting. I’d be giving the same pitch for Arken, Vortex, Leupold, SWFA, whoever, if they ran sales that aggressive since a lot of the offerings in the low and mid tier price brackets perform similarly. Nobody wants to buy a six of one half dozen of the other product and then see one of the other options is on sale for 50% off like a month later.

 

[General RE LEE]

Anyone got an idea what speeds a 16” 6mm ARC would get with hand loads? I’d like to do some calculations.

 

[KenLee]

Sorry this came across like a spam post.

Never heard of Blackhound. No idea anything about their reliability, definetly wouldn't buy one until they have been tried and tested.

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Blackhound is owned by Riton. I looked at one of the Genesis scopes. Not a fan of the reticle, but I'd snatch one up quick for $210

 

[Randy11]

Anyone know whether one piece base/rings from the first generation would fit if you removed the rail?

 

[Unckebob]

Aren't Tikka's with a threaded barrel $1300 these days?

No. I bought a Tikka Roughtech last month with a threaded barrel for $1050.

But, the Gen 2 is likely to be available for $300 less. I think they were looking to compete against the CVA Cascade

 

[General RE LEE]

No. I bought a Tikka Roughtech last month with a threaded barrel for $1050.

But, the Gen 2 is likely to be available for $300 less. I think they were looking to compete against the CVA Cascade

Main thing with the Ruger is the 20” barrel length vs the 22-24” Tikka barrels.

Sportsmans Warehouse did have some 20” barrel Tikkas. Maybe an exclusive through them.

CTR and UPRs have 20” barrel availability but heavier builds.

 

[Unckebob]

The Tikka Roughtech can be had for $999 on eurooptic. A blued Tikka is $799, + $150 for threading, plus $125 for a brake is $1075. Not sure how it's cheaper to thread a Tikka. Roughtech also comes with heavier contour barrel and is fluted.

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My 6.5PRC Roughtech is handier with the 24" barrel than I expected. I think the overall weight feels much lighter than it should. The only thing I don't like is the magazine sticking out the bottom so far.

BTW: Chopping and cutting a Roughtech is limited to about 22" before you run into the barrel flutes. Someone looking to go short should avoid it.

 

[grfox92]

My 6.5PRC Roughtech is handier with the 24" barrel than I expected. I think the overall weight feels much lighter than it should. The only think I don't like is the magazine sticking out the bottom so far.

BTW: Chopping and cutting a Roughtech is limited to about 22" before you run into the barrel flutes. Someone looking to go short should avoid it.

I'm almost possitive those can be cut into the flutes and threaded with a shoulder. I'm pretty sure I've seen it here on RS. Definetly wouldn't be 5/8, but pretty sure it can be done.

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[grfox92]

I'm almost possitive those can be cut into the flutes and threaded with a shoulder. I'm pretty sure I've seen it here on RS. Definetly wouldn't be 5/8, but pretty sure it can be done.

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Who can cut down a fluted barrel?

I’ve seen a lot of threads about cutting down barrels. I like my Tikka Roughtech, but I want to cut it down to 20” to use my suppressor. I know some who don’t want to do it because of the flutes. Who have you guys used with success? It shoots well and I really don’t want to have to buy a new barrel.

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100% can be done.

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[Unckebob]

I'm almost possitive those can be cut into the flutes and threaded with a shoulder. I'm pretty sure I've seen it here on RS. Definetly wouldn't be 5/8, but pretty sure it can be done.

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Thank you.

 

[Odd1out]

Does anyone have one of these warlocks in there hands? Curious if u can take that butt part and flip it to raise it up.

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[grfox92]

Does anyone have one of these warlocks in there hands? Curious if u can take that butt part and flip it to raise it up.

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The butt comes off as does the cheek riser and ruger is making weights in case you want to add weight to the rifle. Not sure you can adjust the orientation of the but stock itself.

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[billoo349]

Two major misses with this that cost Ruger nothing. The reach to the trigger looks the same as the first American which is to far and drop at the recoil pad looks like it belongs on an iron sight gun. Very disappointing.

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[ArcherAnthony]

I think it looks good. I might be tempted to get this in 7prc

 

[Snailz]

I think it looks good. I might be tempted to get this in 7prc

That’s where I’m at too. Between Ruger, CVA, and Tikka once they come out. My real hope is that Tikka and Sako release at the same time and the S20 hunter gets released and is available at the sales price some models have been on Europoptic ($999). That would be an absolute dynamite option worth spending extra for. Otherwise I’ll probably save my money and get the Ruger. You can add an aftermarket trigger and still come under what the other two have been going for. CVA and Tikkas have both steadily crept up in price over the last few years to the point where the Ruger at under $600 is comparable depending on your priorities and tastes.

 

[Snailz]

Two major misses with this that cost Ruger nothing. The reach to the trigger looks the same as the first American which is to far and drop at the recoil pad looks like it belongs on an iron sight gun. Very disappointing.

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Well the LOP is adjustable down to 12” so that’s not as much of a concern. They compensate for the comb drop with the three heights of cheek piece available. One concern I have is the recoil pad shape. It might be a little too curved to sit well if you want to have the rifle close to center mass instead of in the shoulder pocket. Pretty niche issue all things considered. I think it’s a rather well thought out design with flexibility to accommodate most shooters.

 

[SquirrelDown]

Haven't scrolled all the way through this post yet to see if any one of you has bought one yet, but I got the ranch in 223 for 550. Haven't had time to shoot any yet, but it's definitely a light packable rifle and seems well made

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