New 1/2 ton truck

[Steve300xcw]

Honestly the manual work rigs I was around were all IDI's or 7.3's. Overheated the trucks a pile o times. Not a lot of heavy stuff with those rigs. They were a lot faster to put the larger loads behind a semi, then they are these days.

 

[SDHNTR]

The absolute majority of people never read the operational manual. That is the hidden intention of those "reminders" on your dashboard.
The height of vehicle is another unknown fact. This is why the most of commercial and corporate / office cars have a sticker that reminds you about the height, so you don't drive under something you were not supposed to.

Btw the reason the most of manufactures have switched from 4wd (jeep, most of trucks, etc.) or fulltime 4wd (TLC, LR, G-wagon) to the AWD system is precisely because of majority of people were unable to operate them properly and blew the transmission or transferase. Who knows how many soccer moms left their 90s suburban in 4h and destroyed the drivetrain while doing 70mph on the I-80.
Obviously Mr @SDHNTR is not one of those guys!






That 6 speed, 6R140 TorqShift, was one of the most reliable gearbox Ford ever had, and arguably the best in class. But improper use of a truck will kill anything.
This the point I am traying to make.




Is there a difference between the transmission cooler sizes?

Neither one of them has a trans cooler.

 

[270quest]

Someone previsouly mention the 2015-2017 F150s with 2.7/6 Speed as being very reliable. My son has a 2017 XLT CC SB 4X4 with the 2.7/6 speed. Was a 1 owner "old man truck" that had 65k miles when we bought it for him last August 2025. Now has 72k miles and has been a tremendous vehicle for him so far. Hoping/expecting for him to get 200k miles out of it as he goes thru college and on to start his life.

 

[VomSteinbruch]

Neither one of them has a trans cooler.

That sucks.
I think they both have a radiator integrated cooler. Meaning the engine cooler and the transmission cooler are one unite, which is a flawed design.
Only after you add a towing package then it will come with "HD" cooler, and even then, I am not sure it is separate unite.

What a hall is going on with today's engineers, man. As soon as the boomers left the workforce everything went to shit.

 

[SDHNTR]

That sucks.
I think they both have a radiator integrated cooler. Meaning the engine cooler and the transmission cooler are one unite, which is a flawed design.
Only after you add a towing package then it will come with "HD" cooler, and even then, I am not sure it is separate unite.

What a hall is going on with today's engineers, man. As soon as the boomers left the workforce everything went to shit.

Yeah they only have the radiator heat exchanger, even with the tow package. I know modern trans oils can handle higher heat, but IMO, the better strategy would be to dissipate more heat in the first place. But that would involve an extra part that costs more money and 95% of truck owners will never need it. So the bean counters win.

 

[180ls1]

What a hall is going on with today's engineers, man. As soon as the boomers left the workforce everything went to shit.

FYI - all manufactures have an impossible MPG/Emissions standard to meet. This is the main driver of the reliability issues, they are pushing every area to the absolute limit and still coming up short of the GOVT regs.

 

[VomSteinbruch]

I understand that government bureaucrats who come up with these regulations often don’t have to deal with the real-world consequences of their decisions, but what frustrates me even more is the engineering side.

Can cost savings be achieved elsewhere?

This becomes a serious safety issue. For example, if I’m in a remote area doing drilling work and my partner gets injured, and I need to rush him to the nearest ER, what happens if my truck’s transmission overheats while driving on terrain that requires 4H for safety? Am I supposed to stop and let him die?

On a related note, and I don’t want to sound like I’m promoting Nissan, but the Frontier and both Titan models come with dedicated transmission cooling radiators. They are very under looked trucks, especially the XD.

 

[betelgeuse]

I have the 2024 Titan, it has a trans cooler. V8 400 HP. 2024 is the last year. The Endurance V8 is a very reliable motor. I sold my 2011 Titan that had 100.000 miles on it. I never had a problem with it. They are both the PRO 4X package. They came with all the gadgets.