New 1/2 ton truck

Of the modern trucks its Ford or Dodge for drive train reliability. Ram likley has the edge with the better trans. Engines are a toss up with the Hemi likley the best as well since Ford added a exhaust filter like the diesels have (notorious for issues). It may not be on all their engines though.
 
I’m sure they were a mile long. They do have problems. But to define it as “unreliable” is ludicrous besides the engine issues which I mentioned and Toyota is proactively taking care of, GM is not. That’s what I was stating. GM is handling the engine failures on an “as needed” basis along with the transmission problems.

I’d like to know what you found “interesting” on my take. I didn’t obfuscate the problems the new tundras have, only stated that a recall doesn’t make them unreliable when Toyota is proactively taking care of it and providing the customer a vehicle to drive while the recall is performed. I can promise you I didn’t mis-state anything in the above post either. I’m deeply involved in the automotive industry for 10+ years at dealerships.

The new tundras definitely don’t meet the standard of the previous model, I do believe that. From fit and finish, tailgate opening problems, to road noise, but to compare to a previous model/generation isn’t quite fair either. The industry is driven by customer demands of more tech, accessories, amenities and creature comforts in every vehicle model across all makes, and if you dive into customer reviews or forums on every one of the above trucks mentioned you’re gonna find a few people raising a fuss about things they had problems with or found unsatisfactory. This has been the case since forever with humans.
Are you saying Toyota has learned from their frame rust and leaf spring debacle?
There is an active thread on here asking about best way to address frame rust on a Tundra and I can certainly tell you Toyota hanged me out on the leaf springs.
My 2015 F150 just turned 192k on the 3.5 Eco that the 'experts' like to crap on and it has been fantastic. Same for the rest of the car including interior and accessories.
I would and will buy Ford again.
 
Anybody liking the 3.0 Duramax? I am leaning that way for the mpg.
I've had a '25 Silverado 1500 Trail Boss for the last year and a half with about 20k miles. It's a great truck with an average city/hwy mpg of 23. On a very flat stretch of 40 miles to town, it says I get 29-30mpg. Towing my horse trailer at about 6k lbs it's about 14mpg which is fantastic. The ride is super comfortable for a truck and handles the forest roads, washboard and potholes fantastic.

I put the road active suspension on which is great for towing, but unfortunately it's not got a big enough payload to tow my 3 horse trailer with 3 big horses/mules, so I need to move up to the 2500. Otherwise, I've really loved the 3.0 so far. The power/torque is awesome when towing and if I was not going to tow over 7k lbs I'd love to stick with the 3.0 baby duramax 1500.
 
So if reliability is a crapshoot for the big 4 half tons, anybody have opinions on which has the best interior, underseat storage, etc? Let's say current gen for all of them to keep it less complicated.
 
Are you saying Toyota has learned from their frame rust and leaf spring debacle?
There is an active thread on here asking about best way to address frame rust on a Tundra and I can certainly tell you Toyota hanged me out on the leaf springs.
My 2015 F150 just turned 192k on the 3.5 Eco that the 'experts' like to crap on and it has been fantastic. Same for the rest of the car including interior and accessories.
I would and will buy Ford again.
I also have a 2015 F150 3.5 ECO with close to 200k on the clock. Ordered it in Jan 2015 took delivery on April Fools day 2015. Always changed the oil at 5k miles, full synthetic. Meter on the dash usually says 50% oil life around then. No rattle or other engine issues. Did replace the manifolds that were badly warped last summer. Towed heavy and often since brand new. I really like the truck.
 
I’m in a similar boat to the OP. I have a 2015 ram 3500 diesel that has been garbage with emissions issues. I bet I have over 25k in repairs and I’m nearing 200k miles. I have been debating on a 1/2 ton for daily driving and for taking out west each year. My current truck has left me stranded 2x and had the exhaust plug up 2x where the turbo was barely working and I could hardly make it up a couple hills. I was thinking of keeping the 3500 for towing large loads and hauling firewood as I can scratch that up and not even care.

The responses here don’t give me any warm and fuzzy feelings about any of the newer trucks.
 
I also have a 2015 F150 3.5 ECO with close to 200k on the clock. Ordered it in Jan 2015 took delivery on April Fools day 2015. Always changed the oil at 5k miles, full synthetic. Meter on the dash usually says 50% oil life around then. No rattle or other engine issues. Did replace the manifolds that were badly warped last summer. Towed heavy and often since brand new. I really like the truck.
I upgraded to the BD Diesel ductile iron manifolds about two years ago...Mine sheared the rear bolt and the new ones have an extra mounting flange.
That and a few coil packs are the only things that have been replaced.
 
So if reliability is a crapshoot for the big 4 half tons, anybody have opinions on which has the best interior, underseat storage, etc? Let's say current gen for all of them to keep it less complicated.
The non-hybrid tundra has the best under the backseat storage. Aside from cheap and flimsy plastic, I also think the 1794 is the best looking and most functional interior (best leather seats, best camera system, best app, best screen, back window that fully rolls down, etc). But to me, no amount of creature comforts makes the liability worth it. The truck just didn’t work for my uses and I was constantly worried about it.

The F150 is next best with storage. I also like the King Ranch interior. Sadly, though, I could not get the king ranch with a 3:73 rear end, which was important to me. So I ultimately settled on the Tremor. To me, mechanical capability and reliability will always trounce aesthetics or creature comforts. Now, if they made that king ranch interior in a tremor package, I’d be in love!
 
Also a point worth noting for all of these new 10 speed transmissions, there is a learning curve if you aren’t used to them. They shift a lot! They want to get into the tallest gear as fast as possible. They lug a lot. And ultimately, they generate an unbelievable amount of heat. The real eye-opener is if you use them under prolonged slow speed four-wheel-drive conditions. I promise you, and especially in the Toyota, you will want to use 4WD low WAY more often than ever before, and in conditions way more mild than you think you will need it. Basically, if you are in any conditions in 4 high where the torque converter is unlocked, you will generate tremendous heat and you will need to stop constantly to let it cool down, or alarms will be going off. The Tundra was really really bad. Not a mountain hunting truck in any way imaginable.
 
I started a thread like this. Once you filter through all the “V8 Tundra” comments, it seemed like the Tremor with the 5.0 is the best of the crap made today. Unfortunately it only comes with the 10 speed. I’m not hating on the Tundras. They just don’t do anything well at all, except not break.
 
Also a point worth noting for all of these new 10 speed transmissions, there is a learning curve if you aren’t used to them. They shift a lot! They want to get into the tallest gear as fast as possible. They lug a lot. And ultimately, they generate an unbelievable amount of heat. The real eye-opener is if you use them under prolonged slow speed four-wheel-drive conditions. I promise you, and especially in the Toyota, you will want to use 4WD low WAY more often than ever before, and in conditions way more mild than you think you will need it. Basically, if you are in any conditions in 4 high where the torque converter is unlocked, you will generate tremendous heat and you will need to stop constantly to let it cool down, or alarms will be going off. The Tundra was really really bad. Not a mountain hunting truck in any way imaginable.

Only speaking for F150, can you run it in sport mode to get shifts at higher rpm to alleviate the problem?

If you buy with lower gearing in the rear end, could it help?
 
Only speaking for F150, can you run it in sport mode to get shifts at higher rpm to alleviate the problem?

If you buy with lower gearing in the rear end, could it help?
Tow haul mode helps. But ultimately 4lo is still the answer.

And yes, I bought the Ford with the lower geared rear end thinking it would help. I’ll also lock out taller gears.

It definitely manages heat way better than the Toyota. Same trails, no trans overheat alarms on the Ford. It’s also more tolerable running in 4lo. The Toyota was miserable.
 
I’m in a similar boat to the OP. I have a 2015 ram 3500 diesel that has been garbage with emissions issues. I bet I have over 25k in repairs and I’m nearing 200k miles. I have been debating on a 1/2 ton for daily driving and for taking out west each year. My current truck has left me stranded 2x and had the exhaust plug up 2x where the turbo was barely working and I could hardly make it up a couple hills. I was thinking of keeping the 3500 for towing large loads and hauling firewood as I can scratch that up and not even care.

The responses here don’t give me any warm and fuzzy feelings about any of the newer trucks.
$25k in repair costs! Wowza
I upgraded to the BD Diesel ductile iron manifolds about two years ago...Mine sheared the rear bolt and the new ones have an extra mounting flange.
That and a few coil packs are the only things that have been replaced.
I used the same. Installed them myself. A bit pricey of a repair to have someone else do with the labor. A bit of a bear with access but got it done.
 
Only speaking for F150, can you run it in sport mode to get shifts at higher rpm to alleviate the problem?

If you buy with lower gearing in the rear end, could it help?

You can, sport mode is fun for sure, but sometimes it wants to stay in a lower gear longer than I’d like. If I’m doing any sort of driving with mountains or decent size hills I’ve been using tow mode. Holds the gears better than the daily mode and holds the truck back better on the declines.
 
I bought the Ford with the lower geared rear end thinking it would help. I’ll also lock out taller gears.
I ordered a 250 with a 6.7, still waiting for it, but I researched the new 10 speed vs the previous 6 sp. There seemed to be many similar concerns and there are certainly people that prefer the 6, but test vids that I saw on the new rigs running empty were showing higher trans temps with 3.55 than with 3.31. Being that I will stay with stock tire height and won't be towing more than #8k regularly, I opted for the 3.31. I'm hoping that the tranny's preference for tall gears is a benefit with diesel, but my fingers are crossed.
 
I just went through this exercise. My 2014 f150 ecoboost hit 200k and my wife understandably didn’t feel comfortable driving cross country solo in it. Overall great truck. Only problems with it were the damn air sensors that would go out and put it in limp mode. Drove me crazy but I think they fixed it for 2015. All that said I would own another except for the cost and the limp mode. Give me a good old check engine light. So in the end I found a pristine 2021 tundra with 32k. Price was right and I flew to WA and picked it up. No regrets but I sure do miss that turbo fun.
 
'24 GMC AT4 3.0 diesel has been great for me for a couple years. 25k miles in and my only issue was letting the damn dealer do one of their free oil changes. Got home a ciuple days later and luckily noticed an oil stain on my pavers. Dip shits didn't tighten my oil filter tight enough. Offered me another "free" oil change. I declined and told them they had their shot and failed. I'll do my own again.
 
Back
Top