Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44 new model

[N2TRKYS]

This weekend our group killed 4 Javelina, 7 coyotes, and missed high on a bedded Mt Lion at 744 yards. Follow up shot at 620 yards also missed due to either an improper wind call by yours truly or a missed wind hold by the shooter. I think she held left instead of right but who knows in the heat of the moment. Shit happens.

All but one shooter was using the Maven RS1.2 with SHR MIL reticle, with shots from 207 yards to 862 yards. Light conditions were high noon sun to couldn’t even see the animal bare eyes due to being so dark.

There was zero issue with not having a “cross hair” in the reticle and no illumination was used. Scopes are left on 6-8x and occasionally zoomed into around 10-12x depending on shooter.

That’s great, but irrelevant for me. A crosshair is definitely better for me than an empty center.

 

[Ucsdryder]

This weekend our group killed 4 Javelina, 7 coyotes, and missed high on a bedded Mt Lion at 744 yards. Follow up shot at 620 yards also missed due to either an improper wind call by yours truly or a missed wind hold by the shooter. I think she held left instead of right but who knows in the heat of the moment. Shit happens.

All but one shooter was using the Maven RS1.2 with SHR MIL reticle, with shots from 207 yards to 862 yards. Light conditions were high noon sun to couldn’t even see the animal bare eyes due to being so dark.

There was zero issue with not having a “cross hair” in the reticle and no illumination was used. Scopes are left on 6-8x and occasionally zoomed into around 10-12x depending on shooter.

Dang that lion had to hurt. Not many chances like that in a lifetime!

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Dang that lion had to hurt. Not many chances like that in a lifetime!

She was bummed. We have a TON of them down here though and nearly year round season.

 

[Formidilosus]

Doesn’t work that way for me. I can gap shoot pins all day long, but that’s closer range and everything is way easier to see than the center of a scope with no crosshair. I don’t like guessing where my aiming point is on a scope. It’s not a guessing game with pins on a bow sight, so a bery apples to oranges comparison.

I want to be clear- that massive 3.4 MOA gap between horizontal lines, is causing you to not be able to shoot a deer in the chest at close range?

 

[littlefish]

No. I have found that anything below about 6x to be about useless.

Ok so FFP scopes clearly aren’t for you. Your problem isn’t specific to this scope but the design in general, which is fine. That’s why both options exist.

 

[ChrisAU]

That’s great, but irrelevant for me. A crosshair is definitely better for me than an empty center.

But the center isn’t empty?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

That’s great, but irrelevant for me. A crosshair is definitely better for me than an empty center.

I guess my point was that you not being able to properly use the reticle is irrelevant to the success that all the folks I’ve seen shoot and kill with this scope.

The center isn’t empty and even it was, on 6-8x there isn’t a real world hunting/shooting light condition that exists that wouldn’t let the user bracket the vitals with the “square” center hash marks.

 

[N2TRKYS]

I want to be clear- that massive 3.4 MOA gap between horizontal lines, is causing you to not be able to shoot a deer in the chest at close range?

It would be way easier with a crosshair. The range part is irrelevant.

 

[N2TRKYS]

Ok so FFP scopes clearly aren’t for you. Your problem isn’t specific to this scope but the design in general, which is fine. That’s why both options exist.

I don’t like crosshairs that don’t cross. I thought I could get use to it, but doesn’t seem to be the case.

 

[N2TRKYS]

But the center isn’t empty?

That dot disappears too easily for me. It might as well be empty.

 

[N2TRKYS]

I guess my point was that you not being able to properly use the reticle is irrelevant to the success that all the folks I’ve seen shoot and kill with this scope.

The center isn’t empty and even it was, on 6-8x there isn’t a real world hunting/shooting light condition that exists that wouldn’t let the user bracket the vitals with the “square” center hash marks.

Again, irrelevant what other folks like or don’t like. I don’t like it. That’s all that matters with stuff that I own. You shouldn’t have to bracket it.

 

[N2TRKYS]

I guess my point was that you not being able to properly use the reticle is irrelevant to the success that all the folks I’ve seen shoot and kill with this scope.

The center isn’t empty and even it was, on 6-8x there isn’t a real world hunting/shooting light condition that exists that wouldn’t let the user bracket the vitals with the “square” center hash marks.

Again, irrelevant what other folks like or don’t like. I don’t like it. That’s all that matters with stuff that I own. You shouldn’t have to bracket it.

 

[mt terry d]

Again, irrelevant what other folks like or don’t like. I don’t like it. That’s all that matters with stuff that I own. You shouldn’t have to bracket it.

Don't you mean "I shouldn’t have to bracket it " ?

 

[N2TRKYS]

Don't you mean "I shouldn’t have to bracket it " ?

No

 

[mt terry d]

No

"Again, irrelevant what other folks like or don’t like."
To everyone else on this planet you are "other folks".

 

[DangerRanger]

I hunt a lot of eastern/southern whitetails in the woods and can understand how the optimal scope differs from what most on here would consider optimal as this sight is tilted toward western and more open spot and stalk hunting

That said, I don’t personally see an issue with the reticle for me, and haven’t had an issue with my credo that is a floating dot either.

The Schmidt Klassik may be better for your needs, I plan to put one of those on a whitetail rifle next year.

I really like the maven because I think the place to compromise on an all North America scope is for the woods area(as long as you can in fact see the reticle in low light) as you lose very little while stuff made perfect for woods whitetails has much more glaring issues when taken out west IME.

It’s not perfect, but it’s really not an issue either.

I’ve yet to find the perfect scope for everything. Kind of tired of looking and the maven has let my mind calm from the rat race. I’m quite pleased with it

A 3-15 Swfa hd with 3-9 mil quad thickness and an illuminated center like the 5-20 would be damn close to my huckleberry.