LS Wild Armory: any interest in Semi Custom Tikkas?

[WeiserBucks]

Have we addressed the $ in the room?

What would you pay? This thread is a feeler.

I'd pay approximately $1500 for a proofed BA to my FFL.

 

[hereinaz]

Have we addressed the $ in the room?

It’s gonna be practically the same as if you bought the parts and assembled them yourself.

Remember that if you buy from two separate places, you would have to pay to ship the rifle and the barrel and then pay for shipping back to you.

As soon as I have my FFL in hand, and I have the rifle cost I can give the exact number.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I’d buy one from you.

 

[hereinaz]

Numbers aren’t secret, so here is my best plan right now, subject to change. I don’t get huge discounts on anything to make it less than the cost if you bought it.

There isn’t a huge margin on rifles. I was surprised.

$600 barrel (630 shipped from PBB)
$750 rifle (800 shipped with tax from Eurooptic depending on blue or stainless)
$50 assembly
$30 shipping

It’s basically costing you $50 for us to assemble. You can save that with one shipping and no tax.

If you want to buy a rifle from Eurooptic, cool. Send in your own action/rifle, $75 bucks to swap the barrel you bought. Your barrel gets returned.

No tax at our store while we are small for many/most states.

Proofing at the beginning would be $150 ish with 50 rounds minimum 75 round maximum. That allows 30-55 rounds to get everything running and a 20 round group.

I have an interest in proofing as many as I can at the beginning for data. I only need to recover the cost for ammo and minimal time. I will raise the rate over time or drop it if it no longer serves a purpose.

I don’t want to give it away for free. But, I may just do it for free a couple times just to get the data.

 

[hereinaz]

What would you pay? This thread is a feeler.

I'd pay approximately $1500 for a proofed BA to my FFL.

We are right there.

 

[atmat]

Proofing at the beginning would be $150 ish with 50 rounds minimum 75 round maximum. That allows 30-55 rounds to get everything running and a 20 round group.

Why so many rounds? You’re proofing precision, not accuracy. It doesn’t matter if it’s zero’d or not. Pick a spot on paper and fire 20 rounds. Doesn’t matter if the cone is 5” to the left of the target or not, as long as it’s a reasonable cone size.

 

[hereinaz]

Why so many rounds? You’re proofing precision, not accuracy. It doesn’t matter if it’s zero’d or not. Pick a spot on paper and fire 20 rounds. Doesn’t matter if the cone is 5” to the left of the target or not, as long as it’s a reasonable cone size.

My experience is it just takes that many sometimes. Some rifles I can fire 5 and then the next 20 are good. Sometimes it takes a bit more.

And, I just like to shoot, and why not send it down someone else’s barrel, lol.

I will also hand load a couple good recipes with different bullets. If one shoot in 25 then I can shoot the other and give data to the buyer.

Yeah, I won’t zero, and I will use a huge board, lol. Could be off by two feet and test precision not accuracy.

 

[atmat]

I will also hand load a couple good recipes with different bullets. If one shoot in 25 then I can shoot the other and give data to the buyer.

This is going to eat up a fair amount of your time alone.

 

[hereinaz]

This is going to eat up a fair amount of your time alone.

Yeah, it will. Like I said, I am getting a benefit from the first 10 or 20.

If they all shoot the same, I will be done, and buyers should have confidence. If there is a lemon I will know quick and can resolve it.

If people want the full value in the future, I can charge more.

But, like I said, if I can shoot three rifles and enjoy a day at the range, it’s not work loading or shooting.

 

[hereinaz]

The number of PM I have expressing interest and conversations gives me confidence.

But, this may just be a wild hair, lol.

I’d rather you all talk me out of it first!

 

[Speaks]

I have no interest in swapping barrels myself. A tikka all set up in 22cm or 6cm would be super interesting.

 

[hereinaz]

I have no interest in swapping barrels myself. A tikka all set up in 22cm or 6cm would be super interesting.

Be interested, the only wait is for my FFL…

 

[hereinaz]

We both have an interest in auditing the error rate of the barrel manufacturer in the most cost efficient way possible. Don't audit everything; audit the exceptions.

I thought of this and you forced me to realize part of doing it at the beginning is just to show how boringly accurate they shoot. I want proof for skeptics.

I do think it will eventually just become background to audit the exceptions.

 

[hereinaz]

Someone asked about ammo costs.

I would start loading myself and essentially make no money to establish a “market” then find a company to load it for me. That will keep the cost reasonable for the ammo.

We will have our 07 FFL to manufacture.

Hornady loads for 22 creed, so most of the ammo would be 6 PRC.

 

[cowdisciple]

I thought of this and you forced me to realize part of doing it at the beginning is just to show how boringly accurate they shoot. I want proof for skeptics.

I do think it will eventually just become background to audit the exceptions.

Makes sense. Test the first, I don't know, 25 barrels. If they all shoot just fine, you have a baseline for what to expect and maybe think about not testing. If 3 out of 25 suck, maybe they do need to be tested.

 

[4th_point]

Apologies in advance as this is a bit off topic...

If/when you get this service/product humming, please consider pre-fits for the SAKO S20. Assuming prefits would be feasible.

Probably not a ton of people out there, but l'd imagine there are more than a few interested in replacing their S20 barrel. Or maybe just squirreling one away, if there was an easy button.

Maybe a special run or three?

I don't believe the S20 threads are the same as the Tikka.

 

[Brontosaurus]

2) Working with @NSI to create a Tikka based short action by an OEM maker, and work on the whole other parts of the ecosystem, like stocks and bottom metal—long term prproject.

Tell us more!!

 

[hereinaz]

Tell us more!!

www.nonstandard.co @NSI

We are “collaborating” on two ends; I’m on the basic/budget side.

NSI will offer more than just “1000 yards out of the box” at a fraction of the cost and none of the hype… He is taking all the data and hard won experience from here on Rokslide and making a system that comes out of the box: proofed, doped, drop safe, and ready to kill.

I straight up stole the idea of proofing from him, and a few others.

 

[hereinaz]

We don’t have much to add about the “T2 short action project” except it is definitely on the drawing board.

If these initial projects gain traction, we’ll move forward faster.

A specific project in the 6 PRC which would be AWESOME in a short action…

 

[nm.otter]

So anything under 3" COAL is considered short?