Lawnboi
WKR
New topic. Locals only! If you dont live 30 minutes from where you hunt get off my lawn!!!
I think it’s more of the fact that trophy quality sucks, herd numbers suck, access is sucking more every year. It’s not worth coming here. People wouldn’t go to Alaska if convenience of travel was an issue. It’s because it’s somewhat worth it.Lack of proximity to the vast majority of the country where non-residents are driving from is the major factor there.
They do every NR that is in their system, email is solicitation, doesn’t matter if you applied there first.WY solicited you? They actively searched you out and started convincing you to buy points? You must be pretty big name in hunting if you have states coming after you personally. I get reminders from WY to buy points because I signed up for a mailing list, but I contacted them first.
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What value, your value? To me I see more value in selling 80% of these lands, that still leaves 20% for you to play on.If you cant see value in public land beyond hunting you really need to look at your priorities. Of the time I spend on public land only a quarter is hunting. I'm sorry that the only time you enjoy them is when you travel to hunt. You are missing out
It isn’t. It’s a shit place to live or even visit. You should just drive by and throw some money at us poor unfortunates. That would be the Christian thing.Man once you really lay it all out there, not sure it’s worth it just for hunting
I don’t care if you think I sound selfish. I want fewer people coming here to hunt. If I went to where you live and ate so much cheese you’d have a hard time making a hat you’d probably try to stop me. I promise not to…. Even though you are being selfish about your cheese.Wyoming residents who justifiably believe they are entitled to more of Wyoming’s LQ tags, and I’d agree for the most part are here yelling “entitled non resident!!!”
Non resident who just dosnt want to see things get worse than they are now entitled, their opinion means nothing, and gets laughed off as entitlement.
You can laugh all you want, you still sound selfish.
And then it’s selling public lands, but doubt that would effect your hunting. I’m sure we as owners of public land are selfish for thinking they should be sold.I don’t care if you think I sound selfish. I want fewer people coming here to hunt. If I went to where you live and ate so much cheese you’d have a hard time making a hat you’d probably try to stop me. I promise not to…. Even though you are being selfish about your cheese.
Seriously though. The first part (big 5) is done. Now it’s on to elk. You’d do the same. I should probably stop reading this silliness and just focus on our elected officials.
Atleast you own it. I’m not sure I would, I could be doing the same in my state for some of our resources but I don’t. I certainly wouldn’t be pushing a pay to play agenda that some see as the answer either.I don’t care if you think I sound selfish. I want fewer people coming here to hunt. If I went to where you live and ate so much cheese you’d have a hard time making a hat you’d probably try to stop me. I promise not to…. Even though you are being selfish about your cheese.
Seriously though. The first part (big 5) is done. Now it’s on to elk. You’d do the same.
They would probably change the prize to a fishing license after the tickets sell out.Everyone get in on this? https://wyomingwildlife.org/dream-big/
Wy has 580k folksHunting in Wyoming, and other western states, will become more and more difficult to do as interest grows. It's simple supply and demand. I don't blame any state for taking care of it's residents, especially Wyoming. Cost of living is high, wages are low, the climate is crappy, and you have to deal with guys like Buzz to live there. It's not for everyone. The outdoors, and generally good politics, are really the only major draw they have so they need to keep their residents happy.
You may be right but there is no way you could get all non residents on board at the same time.Wy has 580k folks
130-150k of them hunt
The F&G budget is like $81 million
The res hunters cant afford this without help. 1 yr boycott by NR would crush them.
Western non-resident hunters , fngs, and lurkers I know your out there or looking at this thread and frustrated. You have had goals of a western hunting trip and looked at the insanity. The first thing I would like to say is there are some great people on this sight helpful ,generously willing to share info etc. Dont kid yourself there are also some that feel 1 non-resident in there state is too many . You are viewed as the enemy, competition. They do not want non-resident hunting. I respect their opinion.
Non -resident western hunters do we have a leg to stand on , bargining chips, negotiating power ? Are we working from a position of strength or weakness ? Obviously MONEY is the best one. Most western game/fish departments rely heavily on non-resident license fees. At what point and how do we use that bargining chip ?Other thoughts on Federal land use ? Contacting state senators / congressman involved in office of tourism. There must be lawyers/ politicians looking at this situation scratching their heads looking at legal angles. Throwing thoughts /options out there. Any other western non-resident hunters have any ideas
Just one year? Go for 40. That’ll teach em’!Wy has 580k folks
130-150k of them hunt
The F&G budget is like $81 million
The res hunters cant afford this without help. 1 yr boycott by NR would crush them.