Lead poisoning

[ButterBean]

I have been very vocal about my dislike of Steve and Hammer bullets prior to seeing this. The guy is an arrogant piece of work. This video is awful…

You should call him and have a chat, you will come away with a different point of view I'm betting

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Well, let's here it.

I left LRH and those hammer clowns and came here to find some peace and get away from the cult fanboys…now they show up with some anti hunting video and I am just going to have to shut my internet off so I don’t get banned from this site. From Steve lying about his bullets BCs to his lead poisoning propaganda he has been spewing for the last several years…don’t get me started. This guy openly states he knows more than litz about BCs, yet he can’t get any of them right with his bullets.

 

[realunlucky]

OK I'm going to clean up this a bit. Do not get personal, and nasty with other members or you'll get thrown out

Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

 

[ButterBean]

OK I'm going to clean up this a bit. Do not get personal, and nasty with other members or you'll get thrown out

Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

Thank You Sir

 

[Gargoyle]

I left LRH and those hammer clowns and came here to find some peace and get away from the cult fanboys…now they show up with some anti hunting video and I am just going to have to shut my internet off so I don’t get banned from this site. From Steve lying about his bullets BCs to his lead poisoning propaganda he has been spewing for the last several years…don’t get me started. This guy openly states he knows more than litz about BCs, yet he can’t get any of them right with his bullets.

Did you test the BC claims yourself? I've tested Hornady and Berger match bullets to a mile. So far, Hornady is pretty spot on with advertised BC. Berger has been way off. I have Litz book of BCs and got variances from the book. I have not BC tested Hammers, but I will soon. I see the BCs listed on the Hammer website. They certainly don't look inflated.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Hammer bullets came into existence long before this video project, right? Is Hammer's bullet sales plummeting and they needed this documentary to kickstart a dying company?

Right, because no company ever looked for opportunities to grow their business, successful or not. Come on…

The reality is nobody knows why hammer joined this video, even those that try to tell us they know everything hammer, even guaranteeing it.

The OPTICS of the video would lead most, except the hammer die hards, to believe that hammer was promoting their bullet at the expensive of lead bullets.

Maybe they were, maybe they weren’t. Doesn’t change the fact that hammer decided to post this video for all to see and therefore to talk about…both positively and negatively.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Did you test the BC claims yourself? I've tested Hornady and Berger match bullets to a mile. So far, Hornady is pretty spot on with advertised BC. Berger has been way off. I have Litz book of BCs and got variances from the book. I have not BC tested Hammers, but I will soon. I see the BCs listed on the Hammer website. They certainly don't look inflated.

I could care less about hammers bc because I think the talk is speed vs ballistics and it’s been shown hammer can push their speed way higher than many think, but that being said I’m pretty sure I’ve seen many posts that show that hammers bc are optimistic.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Did you test the BC claims yourself? I've tested Hornady and Berger match bullets to a mile. So far, Hornady is pretty spot on with advertised BC. Berger has been way off. I have Litz book of BCs and got variances from the book. I have not BC tested Hammers, but I will soon. I see the BCs listed on the Hammer website. They certainly don't look inflated.

YES

 

[Gargoyle]

I could care less about hammers bc because I think the talk is speed vs ballistics and it’s been shown hammer can push their speed way higher than many think, but that being said I’m pretty sure I’ve seen many posts that show that hammers bc are optimistic.

It's "couldn't care less". Because if you could care less, then that means there are more levels for you to care less. Also, after what I've seen of your posts, I wouldn't trust you if you said water was wet.

 

[Gargoyle]

YES

Well, how far off were they?

 

[Ucsdryder]

It's "couldn't care less". Because if you could care less, then that means there are more levels for you to care less. Also, after what I've seen of your posts, I wouldn't trust you if you said water was wet.

You got me! My parents would be so disappointed in that 100k college education.

Luckily, you have no reason to need to trust me, and I have no reason to care!

 

[ndlawrence]

I wanted to love Hammer bullets, but after shooting game I felt like a kid opening a stocking full of coal on Christmas morning. This thread is quickly adding less and less value to this site.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Well, how far off were they?

Enough that I would miss an elk at 500 yards. Its like pulling a parachute past 300 yards with his bullets. You might as well shoot Aframes or Partitions at longer ranges. Same same, just instead of lobbing lead you are lobbing copper that sometimes expands and sometimes doesn’t.

 

[ButterBean]

Enough that I would miss an elk at 500 yards. Its like pulling a parachute past 300 yards with his bullets. You might as well shoot Aframes or Partitions at longer ranges. Same same, just instead of lobbing lead you are lobbing copper that sometimes expands and sometimes doesn’t.

There a lot of folks that have had quite different results

 

[realunlucky]

This discussion is getting ridiculous.

One side grinding axes, the other holding pompoms. Let's agree to put them both down and find some other threads to post on for awhile



Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

 

[Stache Attack]

Used to donate older meat we didn’t get to to the raptor center. Never once did they ask about lead!

I think the argument is pretty sad and dividing the hunting community giving antis fuel.

 

[xsn10s]

Used to donate older meat we didn’t get to to the raptor center. Never once did they ask about lead!

I think the argument is pretty sad and dividing the hunting community giving antis fuel.

I can see people wanting to help that raptor center. But this flyer showed up on LRH's thread. Looks like they were involved with Sierra Club and the NRDC. Sierra Club is decidely anti 2A, anti hunting, and anti lead ammo. NRDC isn't any better imo.

 

[Stache Attack]

I can see people wanting to help that raptor center. But this flyer showed up on LRH's thread. Looks like they were involved with Sierra Club and the NRDC. Sierra Club is decidely anti 2A, anti hunting, and anti lead ammo. NRDC isn't any better imo.

10-4, I don’t anymore. Anyhow funniest that they take in most of the birds from windmill hits!

 

[Gargoyle]

Enough that I would miss an elk at 500 yards. Its like pulling a parachute past 300 yards with his bullets. You might as well shoot Aframes or Partitions at longer ranges. Same same, just instead of lobbing lead you are lobbing copper that sometimes expands and sometimes doesn’t.

I was talking about actual testing showing results with numbers showing variances from published BCs. Outside of this you are providing a response with biased foundation.

 

[Mike Islander]

Just require hunters to cover guts. Leaf litter would work. 99% problem solved.