Largest Private Western Land Owners Controlling Huge Amounts Of Public Land

[MtnW]

Let’s make a list of all the Largest western states land owners who are also controlling vast amounts of our public lands. Mainly interested in the landowners who are tying up our public lands for their own personal gains and private hunting for their families, business associates, and friends. Let’s compile a list of total acres , private acres , public acres controlled . Also comment if these land barons allow the public on their public controlled lands. Name the landowners and the family they are associated with and other known land holdings they have in all western states.Many of these landowners and families are some of the greediest , self absorbed people in the USA.
I will start out with one ranch I am familiar with that has over 20% of its land that is public.
I think a movement needs to be started to free up these public lands for hunting, and not just cow elk.

1) Stan Kroenke - Married into the Wal~Mart family
Q Creek Ranch Wyoming - total acreage 550,000 acres
Over 100,000 acres of this ranch is public land and does not allow public hunting or access

 

[YellCoAR]

I will admit I don't blame them. Being honest I would do the same.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Let me grab an IPA and my flat-billed cap. . .

 

[HunterGatherer]

Unlocking Public Lands | Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership

www.trcp.org

 

[MtnW]

I will admit I don't blame them. Being honest I would do the same.

Really?
So the state and government land and the wildlife on the public controlled lands that you own and pay taxes on is completely controlled by private individuals for their own personal gain is okay with you?

 

[P dog]

Q Creek has a bunch of acres set aside as an HMA in WY. I think Wagohound does most of their outfitting on Q creek stuff to.

 

[scottbot]

Wagonhound in Wyoming

 

[MtnW]

Unlocking Public Lands | Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership

www.trcp.org

TRCP info is great but it doesnt easily identify these properties. Let’s get a list of some of these large ranches and their owners made public here.

 

[JJ1179]

I agree! It’s very frustrating when our public lands are landlocked and not huntable. I can’t wait until we have “hunting drones” that we can use to fly in over their land and land hunters and their gear on the public lands. Boy, I bet the land owners would be PISSED .

 

[Bubblehide]

I agree! It’s very frustrating when our public lands are landlocked and not huntable. I can’t wait until we have “hunting drones” that we can use to fly in over their land and land hunters and their gear on the public lands. Boy, I bet the land owners would be PISSED .

Dude, it sounds like you're behind the times if you don't already have one.

 

[ReaptheHeat]

I agree! It’s very frustrating when our public lands are landlocked and not huntable. I can’t wait until we have “hunting drones” that we can use to fly in over their land and land hunters and their gear on the public lands. Boy, I bet the land owners would be PISSED .

You know they'd make a new rule to circumvent that

Id love to sling an elk quarter to a drone.

 

[Sanchez]

I am OK with private landowners restricting hunting on western states like Montana, Wyoming and Idaho.

What is selfish is resident hunters who want to severely restrict and then overcharge out of state hunting even on the federal land they own every bit as much as instate hunters.

By selectively limiting and then overcharging non residents, the overall political position on this is weekend to the point the large landowners will prevail. More power to them.

 

[YellCoAR]

Really?
So the state and government land and the wildlife on the public controlled lands that you own and pay taxes on is completely controlled by private individuals for their own personal gain is okay with you?

I support property rights. I own land that boarders a State WMA. People are welcome to hunt right on my property line. Of course they have to walk or boat in a long ways. But I will not allow them to drive across my land to recover their deer.

 

[Slickhill]

Say you wake up tomorrow and find out you’ve hit the lottery and are now a billionaire or close to it. This fellow you seem to have a hardon for agrees to sell you the named ranch and you buy it with your newfound riches.

Are you telling us you’re going to let every Tom, Dick, and Harry drive or walk across your new ranch to get to that public land? Maybe the first year? What about after they’ve rutted up your pasture roads when it’s wet and they’re a dumbass who doesn’t know how to drive? After folks have dumped a few old water heaters and dryers off and shot them full of holes? Or after someone sues you and you’re found liable for whatever stupid accident they inflicted upon themselves while on your place?

The odds are the current owner didn’t lay out the property lines back in the homestead days. If he paid for it he’s under no obligation to give or sell any of it for access.

There are many reasons not to let Joe Public goof around on your ranch, “the last guy shot my cow” is about the least of those reasons.

 

[Hnthrdr]

PLO running their land like a dictator is fine, heck I know most of us here would. Locking everyone out of public access is lame! Should be able to open up the public but if a guy legally owns a million acres and wants to do as he pleases on it, more power to him.

 

[MtnW]

I support property rights. I own land that boarders a State WMA. People are welcome to hunt right on my property line. Of course they have to walk or boat in a long ways. But I will not allow them to drive across my land to recover their deer.

Most here agree and totally respect private property rights. You are not understanding the topic. We are talking about individuals who are controlling extremely large amounts of public lands that are inside their ranch boundaries. Land locked public lands and in most cases monetizing wildlife for their own profit

 

[IdahoBeav]

They should just sell the landlocked parcels. Then everyone can stop crying about it. The ranchers that are "locking up" the land are doing more to manage it than the feds or state are.

 

[MtnW]

PLO running their land like a dictator is fine, heck I know most of us here would. Locking everyone out of public access is lame! Should be able to open up the public but if a guy legally owns a million acres and wants to do as he pleases on it, more power to him.

Agreed there are several individuals who are stellar and not land locking public lands but instead own all of their land. Ted Turner and his family who own the Vermejo are a great example.

The wal~mart clan who are obscenely rich block off 100,000 acres on just one of their ranches is what I am describing. The walmartians have hundreds of billions of dollars but they still want more. The 100,000’s of thousands of acres of public land they use for their own private ranch is what needs to be changed immediately. Like the Walmartians need government subsidies

 

[jmez]

Not a single one of the landowners land locked anything. Our idiotic Federal Gvmt did. Not their problem. They aren't going to go build a road through their private land so you have access.

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[Hnthrdr]

Not a single one of the landowners land locked anything. Our idiotic Federal Gvmt did. Not their problem. They aren't going to go build a road through their private land so you have access.

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This is also fair… guess that’s where land swaps can be useful but they need to be fair