Largest Private Western Land Owners Controlling Huge Amounts Of Public Land

Again guys. Yall aren’t getting the traction you thought you would. Rephrasing it or writing longer posts won’t help.

Makes me happy most still applaud those that have done well in this wonderful country.
 
Again guys. Yall aren’t getting the traction you thought you would. Rephrasing it or writing longer posts won’t help.

Makes me happy most still applaud those that have done well in this wonderful country.
You apparently can’t grasp the point I made or just didn’t read the post. No one is expecting to get any “traction” with you, that’s for sure.

Makes me happy that we still have enough public land left in this country to fight for. I applaud all the people still in the fight. God bless America
 
Should we be entitled to hunt all public lands? We are not allowed to hunt some public lands that the government culls animals on. Wouldn't that be better to open to hunters first? It would save the government from paying sharpshooters.
Should there be different rules for different public lands? Like state land follow existing resident/non resident rules, but federal is same prices and tag allotment for any american?
 
The word entitlement gets thrown around here quite a bit, But there are different meanings of entitlement. The basic definition is simply, the legal right to something. As Americans we are legally entitled access to public land, hence the term public land - open to the public.

Any landowner who thinks they should be able to prevent access to public land , so that they can access it themselves while making every effort to keep other people out, is displaying the other type of entitlement- ( undue, special treatment). I’m not suggesting they should allow everyone and their brother in law to cross their land. I posted links to the Access Yes program we have here in Idaho where the F&G uses sportsman dollars to compensate landowners for access to hunting and fishing opportunities. This is the way.

Ironically, many of these landowners rely heavily on our tax dollars - payments from the government through direct and indirect subsidies. Even if they don’t need the payments, they often take them anyways because hey, free money ! These subsidy payments are known as entitlements -

“Yes, many U.S. farm subsidy programs function as entitlements because they provide guaranteed, mandatory funding based on established formulas, like direct payments tied to historical crop production, ensuring payments flow automatically each year under the Farm Bill. While other programs rely on annual discretionary funding, these specific "entitlement" subsidies are legally obligated, similar to programs like SNAP (food stamps), but unlike traditional social benefits, they often favor larger, profitable farms growing specific commodities like corn, soybeans, and cotton.”

Imagine if everyone that opened a business demanded that the taxpayers fund their losses and poor business decisions, and subsidized every aspect of their businesses from land development to insurance to disaster relief. Crazy right ? In the case of agriculture, the government does this to stabilize our boom and bust food system to prevent it from collapsing every few years.

Farmers and ranchers calling hunters “entitled “ simply because they want to hunt public land and would like to see more public land unlocked, is the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black. There are ranchers in my family and many close friends are in agriculture as well. I have had interactions with dozens, if not hundreds of ranchers over the years and some are great people. Others are entitled a-holes. On the other hand, some “hunters “ are a-holes as well and trespass, vandalize and poach on private land. Those people do not represent sportsmen as a whole. They are the bad apples and shouldn’t be lumped together with the respectful sportsmen who’s only goal is to hunt the land they are entitled to.

And before the angry rebuttals start , I fully support the hardworking family ranchers and farmers that feed the nation and I’m actually okay with subsidizing their operations . However , I do not support the real estate tycoons and land developers that leverage this system only for their own benefit without any intention of being a real producer, while also benefiting from the same entitlements as real producers.
I read your caveat but, you’re still throwing shade!
Ever been hungry or better yet, starving with no access to affordable food? No! You would have to move to another country for that experience! I think sometimes the American public forgets the rationale behind farm subsidies. Also, quite a disparity between perception and reality of ag economics…. Sure you might have a new pickup every few years but, name just one charity or any philanthropy of scale generated by the wealth of a farmer, please! It can be a great life but, it is a fight everyday, subsidy or not.
 
I need to learn jumping from a plane. Jump with enough gear to make camp, and have gear dropped so I can build a rocket to boost myself out of the public lands with my kill.
 
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