16Bore, my opinions on the Kuiu stuff comes from actually using it, not looking at it, reading about it or hearing about it.
When Mano posted about reading the tent sleeves were failing, I stated that there are no tent sleeves so be careful what you read .
And for anyone who says they are part of Kuiu's Pro Staff, think again , they don't have one .
I live about. 40 minutes from their store and work about 20 minutes from them. I have the ability to stop in and try items out in person before ever buying them. I have also seen what Jason and Shaun do to particular items to test them and no they are not making junk.
Too many people write about many products they have never used to just to feel included in a particular topic, I am not one of them.
I know Kuiu isn't perfect and have had their issues with some products, that happens when designing products like their first icon packs.
They are not reinventing the wheel with their clothes, gloves, gaiters or tents . They are using newer materials and some small design changes , but essentially they are like many other products.
Other than the first series of Icon Frames, I don't know of any significant issues with their clothes, pack bags, gloves , gaiters, etc.
And like every other person posting, take my opinion as it is, just mine, but know it came from using the product.