“Corner Crossing”…. Shots?

[go_deep]

This is interesting WY language. But written by a state that misunderstood the law. And written before WY had CC law explained to them by the federal courts.

And, this law only applies to “enclosed lands”, so wouldn’t apply if no fence lines at that corner?

(d) No person knowingly shall fire any rifle from the enclosed lands of one person onto or across the enclosed lands of another without the permission of both persons.

How about you call them and ask?

(307) 777-4600

 

[roadrunner]

NM states you cannot shoot within 150 yds of an established dwelling or structure. However, it changes with EPLUS.

The catch all NM uses is the first bullet point in the General Rules It is Unlawful to: recklessly or carelessly handle a firearm. That could include shooting across private...

 

[wytx]

Actually many GW in Wyoming did not and would not enforce trespassing if it occurred at corners, hence why they did not cite the Miss hunters, LO had the sheriff do that.

Sent this question to a GW we know, lets see what they say.

 

[Marbles]

So, legality of bullet flight aside, do you really want to shoot an animal that close to property you cannot retrieve it from?

The easy answer is don't be the test case. Or, if you like the idea, be the test case.

Drones provide an example of airspace ownership and protections. State and local laws come into play. Most drone laws revolve around privacy issues, but some just prohibited fly over.

Can You Fly a Drone Over Private Property? State-by-State Guide 2025

Explore updated regulations for flying drones over private property in the USA by state in 2025.

www.jouav.com

 

[Laramie]

There is not a state in the union where this is legal. No, it isn't listed in game and fish brochures everywhere, but it is illegal. Someone prove me wrong.

 

[Rich M]

Geeze.
This one takes the internet bad idea of the day award.

The question is actually - who is watching.

Bad idea - not so much. If it is legal to walk across there, it should be legal to shoot.

 

[Reburn]

The question is actually - who is watching.

Bad idea - not so much. If it is legal to walk across there, it should be legal to shoot.

You will never triangulate the bullet to cross at the actual corner. Period.

So the real question is can we shoot over private.

 

[Zzyzx]

There is not a state in the union where this is legal. No, it isn't listed in game and fish brochures everywhere, but it is illegal. Someone prove me wrong.

Every state, huh? So you shouldn’t have any trouble citing the code/statute to prove yourself correct.

 

[Conrad101st]

There is not a state in the union where this is legal. No, it isn't listed in game and fish brochures everywhere, but it is illegal. Someone prove me wrong.

So far, only one person has shown a statute against it in one state. I see nothing in my state. Again laws are not written to allow. They are written to prevent. That’s why accountants and lawyers plow into the grey and find loopholes.

 

[Quandary]

Bullets are not aircraft, they have no rights to airspace.

Wyoming Statutes Title 23. Game and Fish § 23-3-305. Hunting from highway; entering or traveling through private property without permission; penalty; hunting at night without permission prohibited​

Current as of January 01, 2024
(a) No person shall hunt, shoot, or attempt to kill any wildlife from any public road or highway.
(b) No person shall enter upon, travel through or return across the private property of any person to take wildlife, hunt, fish, collect antlers or horns, or trap without the permission of the owner or person in charge of the property. Violation of this subsection constitutes a low misdemeanor punishable as provided in W.S. 23-6-202(a)(v). For purposes of this subsection “travel through or return across” requires physically touching or driving on the surface of the private property.
(c) No person shall fire any firearm from, upon, along, or across any public road or highway.

(d) No person knowingly shall fire any rifle from the enclosed lands of one person onto or across the enclosed lands of another without the permission of both persons.

(e) No person shall hunt at night upon privately owned or leased lands except with written permission of the landowner or lessee.

The questioned posited was from public to public. The statute address from "enclosed lands of one person", I am assuming that refers to private land. If so there would be nothing in that statute that says you can't fir from public to public across private.

 

[Erict]

There is not a state in the union where this is legal. No, it isn't listed in game and fish brochures everywhere, but it is illegal. Someone prove me wrong.

There is no such prohibition in New York - not for hunting, nor for shooting in general.

 

[wytx]

It is also illegal in Texas for your bullets to leave your property or go onto another persons property.

I believe Colorado law states you can be charged for reckless endangering if your bullets cross private and pose a safety issue, i.e people present or homes or buildings.

Texas Parks and Wildlife Code - PARKS & WILD § 62.0121. Discharge of Firearm Across Property Line​

Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff
(a) In this section, “firearm” has the meaning assigned by Section 62.014(a).
(b) A person commits an offense if:

(1) the person, while hunting or engaging in recreational shooting, knowingly discharges a firearm; and
(2) the projectile from the firearm travels across a property line.
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the person:

(1) owns the property on both sides of each property line crossed by the projectile; or
(2) has a written agreement with any person who owns property on either side of each property line crossed by the projectile that allows the person to discharge a firearm on, over, or across the property or property line.
(d) The written agreement required under Subsection (c)(2) must:

(1) contain the name of the person allowed to hunt or engage in recreational shooting in a manner described by Subsection (b);
(2) identify the property on either side of the property line crossed by the projectile; and
(3) be signed by any person who owns the property on either side of the line crossed by the projectile.
(e) An offense under this section is a Class C Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor.
(f) If conduct constituting an offense under this section constitutes an offense under a section of the Penal Code, the person may be prosecuted under either section or both sections.

 

[wytx]

The questioned posited was from public to public. The statute address from "enclosed lands of one person", I am assuming that refers to private land. If so there would be nothing in that statute that says you can't fir from public to public across private.

Better hope there was no fence.

 

[CoHunter1991]

I heard an Idaho game warden comment on this a few years back. Example given was L shaped public parcel and shooting across private from one public arm to the next. He said as long as there were no structure and you didn't endanger person or property it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[KenLee]

I can only speak to Wyoming, but I have never had a warden not get me an answer to my question, might take a day or two if it's a unique question, but they've answered me with certainty and clarity every time.

Good luck asking 2 in SC and getting the same answer.

 

[Conrad101st]

Fun discussion. Bottom line is it would appear that it depends on the state from a purely legal perspective. Texas and Wyoming have so far been determined by statute. I know a lot of you argue safety but if you’re talking about unoccupied land without structures or cows present and in direct line of fire, probably no biggie. Not that some hot head won’t sue you, but the warden is gonna have to cite a statute if he wants to ticket you.

 

[TagSoup_Chef]

Dang hadn’t looked at this since posting. Guess it’s not super intuitive or well known, and I should follow up with some other folks. Worth figuring out since where we hunt is a minefield of private/public.

Geeze.
This one takes the internet bad idea of the day award.

Well, I did phrase it as a potentially “dumb question”, but it also has clearly lead to some discussion. Not like I’ve been sitting on my phone with an elk in my crosshairs waiting for Rokslide to tell me what to do! Happy hunting to you sir!

 

[accountantsanonymous]

There is not a state in the union where this is legal. No, it isn't listed in game and fish brochures everywhere, but it is illegal. Someone prove me wrong.

Sorry, the onus is on you here. With a statement like that, you should be able to back it up with sources. 50 of them, actually.

 

[Laramie]

Sorry, the onus is on you here. With a statement like that, you should be able to back it up with sources. 50 of them, actually.

I'm not the idiot that is going to get in trouble. Good luck to you.

 

[accountantsanonymous]

I'm not the idiot that is going to get in trouble. Good luck to you.

No, just the idiot that makes a claim that they can't back up. Good luck with those sources. I'll start looking myself.