Kansas next state to ban game cameras on Public Land

[RyanT26]

Strawman

It’s not.
Scouting is a silly argument. If you scout correctly, you should use binoculars not be wandering around in bedding areas and along game trails.

 

[KurtR]

Step outside Kansas and there have been many states that revoked the use of baiting over the past 20 years. The reasoning of disease gets thrown around a lot, but I think fair chase is the real reason it gets advocated. A deer in a food plot typically doesn't guarantee a shot, but a bait pile or feeder under your stand is a different story. Baiting would be a huge advantage in western states where there isn't an abundance of ag fields.

Which if people would be honest and say that what ever but they always throw the cwd in there just to sound better. Maybe with a bow a food plot wont guarantee a shot but with a rifle its no different than a feeder.

 

[RyanT26]

Step outside Kansas and there have been many states that revoked the use of baiting over the past 20 years. The reasoning of disease gets thrown around a lot, but I think fair chase is the real reason it gets advocated. A deer in a food plot typically doesn't guarantee a shot, but a bait pile or feeder under your stand is a different story. Baiting would be a huge advantage in western states where there isn't an abundance of ag fields.

The idea that you threw out a 50 pound bag of corn in Kansas and you’ll just have 10 point bucks in it in an hour and they will just stand there and wait to get shot is the dumbest thing that continually gets thrown around.
I use supplemental feed or bait piles. Whatever you wanna call them. I don’t hunt over them because I think it’s a waste of time. In my experience you get does and small bucks on the piles. And in general, the deer in Kansas aren’t quite as retarded as everybody makes them sound. I find the deer will avoid corn piles until after shooting light or right before.

 

[Lytro]

The idea that you threw out a 50 pound bag of corn in Kansas and you’ll just have 10 point bucks in it in an hour and they will just stand there and wait to get shot is the dumbest thing that continually gets thrown around.

Not even remotely close to what I said, but your persistent defense of baiting kind of proves my point. It must be effective for you if you're so passionate about keeping it. Lol

 

[Bearded Bowhunter]

Not even remotely close to what I said, but your persistent defense of baiting kind of proves my point. It must be effective for you if you're so passionate about keeping it. Lol

Agreed. Sounds like Glockster has probably killed all his deer the last decade with bellies full of corn to me

 

[Lytro]

Which if people would be honest and say that what ever but they always throw the cwd in there just to sound better. Maybe with a bow a food plot wont guarantee a shot but with a rifle its no different than a feeder.

CWD usually gets more attention than pissed off land owners who have neighbors with bait piles or feeders right on their property line.

 

[Justin Crossley]

I don't have an issue with game cameras or baiting.

Game animals should be managed for healthy, sustainable populations. If cameras or baiting are hurting that objective, I'm unaware of it.

 

[KurtR]

CWD usually gets more attention than pissed off land owners who have neighbors with bait piles or feeders right on their property line.

And alot of money for "research"

 

[CorbLand]

What's the big deal with a game camera?

The ability to scout 24/7 365 for the cost of a camera, an SD card and some batteries.

The ability to scout animals 24/7 365 having only stepped on the mountain 2 times before the hunt starts.

The ability to scout an entire unit, canyon, forest, etc at the same time.

The list is really long.

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The kid at 1:43 sums up my stance to a T.

 

[RyanT26]

Not even remotely close to what I said, but your persistent defense of baiting kind of proves my point. It must be effective for you if you're so passionate about keeping it. Lol

Agreed. Sounds like Glockster has probably killed all his deer the last decade with bellies full of corn to me

You guys must have reading comprehension issues. I’ll try to help you out.
“I use supplemental feed or bait piles. Whatever you wanna call them. I don’t hunt over them because I think it’s a waste of time. In my experience you get does and small bucks on the piles. And in general, the deer in Kansas aren’t quite as retarded as everybody makes them sound. I find the deer will avoid corn piles until after shooting light or right before.”

 

[Dos Perros]

I know a dude who kills booners with a mouthful of corn literally every year. He puts the videos on the 'gram. Sometimes he kills multiple booners that way.

 

[Overdrive]

Never had a trail camera help with the taking of any game animal for me. For me it's an entertainment hobby and I can't wrap my head around why they would ban game cameras.

 

[CorbLand]

Never had a trail camera help with the taking of any game animal for me. For me it's an entertainment hobby and I can't wrap my head around why they would ban game cameras.

Have you ever put out a camera, not had pictures of animals on it and hunted a different spot because of it?

Have you ever hunted a spot because of the information a camera provided you?

 

[RyanT26]

CWD usually gets more attention than pissed off land owners who have neighbors with bait piles or feeders right on their property line.

Again an entirely overblown issue. As long as it’s on the right side of the fence, there’s not a damn thing anybody can do about it. How would putting a food plot next to a fence line be any different?

 

[RyanT26]

I know a dude who kills booners with a mouthful of corn literally every year. He puts the videos on the 'gram. Sometimes he kills multiple booners that way.

Hopefully, not multiple in Kansas. Otherwise, he might have a bigger issue than a pile of corn.
Edit: Unless he’s playing the depredation tag game

 

[Dos Perros]

Hopefully, not multiple in Kansas. Otherwise, he might have a bigger issue than a pile of corn.
Edit: Unless he’s playing the depredation tag game

It is in Kansas. I'm not sure how he does it. Could be shenanigans.

 

[Lytro]

You guys must have reading comprehension issues. I’ll try to help you out.
“I use supplemental feed or bait piles. Whatever you wanna call them. I don’t hunt over them because I think it’s a waste of time. In my experience you get does and small bucks on the piles. And in general, the deer in Kansas aren’t quite as retarded as everybody makes them sound. I find the deer will avoid corn piles until after shooting light or right before.”

I gave my opinion on why I think the use of feeders and bait has really been revoked in some states. You obviously think it's use is worthwhile since you admittedly do it. No judgement from me. I would do it if it were legal here because it would be insanely effective in some of the areas I hunt. It's laughable that you say it doesn't give you or anyone an advantage, but you go out of your way to do it and defend it.

In all honesty, I could care less about what anyone does while hunting legally. A lot of people get triggered when people shoot small bucks and they advocate for antler restrictions. I'll say hell yeah to anyone who wants to shoot a spike over a dump truck load of corn if it's what they enjoy and it's legal. It's only when they make BS excuses for doing it, say the words "ground shrinkage", or "it's not the biggest but...". That's when I'll make fun of them.

 

[Overdrive]

Have you ever put out a camera, not had pictures of animals on it and hunted a different spot because of it?

No, I use to put cameras out in the areas I hunt and hunted regardless, all my cameras I have put out have been in the Colorado mountains, I used them as a way to go hiking every weekend for conditioning. In all the years I only saw one group of 3 rag horns in person that I had on camera.

 

[Lytro]

I know a dude who kills booners with a mouthful of corn literally every year. He puts the videos on the 'gram. Sometimes he kills multiple booners that way.

I know of a handful of guys that have a youtube hunting channel. They kill a lot of really nice late season whitetails every year on their show over a literal dump truck load of corn. It's completely legal where they hunt, but it's conveniently left out of all their video footage. Haha

 

[CorbLand]

No, I use to put cameras out in the areas I hunt and hunted regardless, all my cameras I have put out have been in the Colorado mountains, I used them as a way to go hiking every weekend for conditioning. In all the years I only saw one group of 3 rag horns in person that I had on camera.

The bottom line is that they are effective when used and are extremely effective when used correctly.

It’s not the government job to provide you with a reason to be active. You can do that without putting cameras up.


We have to start finding ways to limit ourselves and not our opportunity.