It is once again time for a new vehicles are garbage thread.

[CJ19]

I would prefer to be hunting and not making this post but here I am on a hunting trip and new vehicle problems mean im eating breakfast in the cabin instead of hunting. The guy who drove has a new chevy diesel with less than 20,000 miles. This guy babies his trucks and is the type to take extreme care of all equipment including vehicles. Vehicle starts the 175 miles to limp mode bullsht. Im sure it some dumbass sensor issue. Will wreck a few days of the trip bc we cant go where want and the truck owner is going to the dealer to get it checked out.

Its pretty amazing that vehicles from 30 years ago were more reliable. The amount of stupid sensors and worthless electronics that perform some menial task but cause catastrophic problems when they fail is unreal. It is difficult to put into words the distain that I have toward the people that have pushed vehicle technology in the direction it has gone. All the stupid sensors, 10 speed crap transmissions, faulty pumps that are supposedly going to change the weather, etc. Hope you all have great days and your hunts go more smoothly than mine.

 

[2531usmc]

Your assessment of modern vehicles is about right. That’s why young people can no longer afford them

 

[def90]

All of those sensors, 10 speed transmissions and everything else exist in order to get the vehicles to come in under EPA exhaust limits.

 

[Yoder]

Well, the good news is it probably only cost around $100k. What a bargain.

 

[Yoder]

Your assessment of modern vehicles is about right. That’s why young people can no longer afford them

That and most are lazy turds that only work a maximum of 40 hrs a week and have a $150k student loan with a degree in unicorn herding or French art history.

 

[Steve300xcw]

That’s why young people can no longer afford them

If were being honest here. Most folks cant really afford a new rig

 

[Poser]

What drives me crazy is the needless labor complexity to replace components that require regular replacement. Engine bays used to be extremely accessible with spark plugs, starters, water pumps etc all straight forward to replace.

Starters, spark plugs, water pumps should all be laid out in a way that they are accessible without anything more than minor disassembly. Every vehicle should have a cabin access to port to the fuel pump similar to older Land Rovers. You're talking about components that have 100k lifespans max. It shouldn't cost you $1500 in labor to replace a $150 part that requires 2 bolts and a electrical connection. Alternators should be replaceable on the side of the road with a wrench and a YouTube video.

 

[Muleyczy]

What drives me crazy is the needless labor complexity to replace components that require regular replacement. Engine bays used to be extremely accessible with spark plugs, starters, water pumps etc all straight forward to replace.

Starters, spark plugs, water pumps should all be laid out in a way that they are accessible without anything more than minor disassembly. Every vehicle should have a cabin access to port to the fuel pump similar to older Land Rovers. You're talking about components that have 100k lifespans max. It shouldn't cost you $1500 in labor to replace a $150 part that requires 2 bolts and a electrical connection. Alternators should be replaceable on the side of the road with a wrench and a YouTube video.

100% agree….unfortunately to do a majority of repairs now a days you have to remove the entire cab. Pretty crazy

 

[CJ19]

What drives me crazy is the needless labor complexity to replace components that require regular replacement. Engine bays used to be extremely accessible with spark plugs, starters, water pumps etc all straight forward to replace.

Starters, spark plugs, water pumps should all be laid out in a way that they are accessible without anything more than minor disassembly. Every vehicle should have a cabin access to port to the fuel pump similar to older Land Rovers. You're talking about components that have 100k lifespans max. It shouldn't cost you $1500 in labor to replace a $150 part that requires 2 bolts and a electrical connection. Alternators should be replaceable on the side of the road with a wrench and a YouTube video.

Did you see that bill that was put out about farmers having the right to fix their own equipment. I have no idea whats in it but the concept of it certainly makes sense to me.

 

[CJ19]

Well the def heater isnt working. So long as it doesnt get colder and the 5 inches of snow doesnt get deeper we should be fine. What an absolutely infuriating issue to have.

 

[Poser]

100% agree….unfortunately to do a majority of repairs now a days you have to remove the entire cab. Pretty crazy

Even on my 4th Gen 4 Runner, you have to remove the passenger tire and the water pump to replace the starter. On a 90s Chevy, you could replace the starter without even having to jack the vehicle up. It sucked and was a bit frustrating, but you could do it in a AutoZone parking lot. I once did it on a gravel road. If nothing else, you could also reach the starter to actually tap it with a hammer if you were in a pinch with a failing starter. These days, a failing starter requires a tow and $1500 worth of labor.