GSPHUNTER
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It looks like you are getting more than enough information to totally F you up.
What was done to sight them in? Is there a range there?
I have inexpensive Bushnell bore sighter that mounts into the muzzle of various rifles by using different expandable rods base on the Cal. of the weapon you are using it and projects a crosshair target when you view it through your scope, it shows graduation for elevation and windage, while looking through the scope you make adjustments until the reticle on your scope matches the crosshairs on bore sighter. It will put you within a few inches of bullseye at 100 yards, then you can adjust from there. I do not like laser bore sighters.
Reloading is a science, it needs to be very precise time after time, a slight variance in powder charge or bullet depth can make a big difference. I am not talking from personal experience, but my friend has been reloading everything for over 50 years. He is anal about his accuracy when it comes to reloading and has impressed upon me how important it is. It takes time and experience to get it right every time.hi western duck - thanks for the tips. I grew up shooting all kinds of things.. i certainly dont flinch - ive shot 150 rounds thru this rifle, and fwiw the loads are alot softer than the box ammo- not sure if thats the powder or neck tension etc but at 100 yards there shouldnt be much difference. anyway its certainly not me flinching at all i can guarantee you that.
We shoot off steady rests with lots of support so movement is tiny - why everyone is assuming im super incapable here is quite interesting. Im fairly new to reloading and was wondering if that might have been a factor. Ill just ignore all the people making fun of me i really dont care -
Thanks for the tips though at least you came across as a gentleman. Too much moonshiners in here clearly who dole over their superior knowledge.
My comm skills must suck to throw so many ppl way off target lol .. anwyay it is what it is.
WIll call cabellas and look at upgrading to a leupold vx3 hopefully my random issues will be gone..
Just saying a good job of bore sighting will get close enough to be able to see what adjustments you need to make. Bore sighting absolutely does not equal zero. I did not read every post, so I missed where he mentioned the 5 " part.What’s your point?
I said boresighted does not equal zeroed. Do you disagree?
OP said Cabelas got him within 5” and you’re saying your method gets you “within a few inches.”
The fact you never personally confirmed your zero and went hunting with it says a lot. It’s no wonder people are on you like they are, and you’re taking it offensively. If you don’t have time, take the time and miss the hunt to make it right.Would have thought so but clearly not- like i said we didnt have time to check the guns - i shot at 30 yards when we got to the hunting grounds and it looked close enough but after missing that deer i realized how bad it was.
Last trip we were doing good with a 2" group at 100 yards semi standing.. then the last 2 missed the target at 50 - very odd random misses 2% of the time.
No problem dude. Just trying to be helpful. I stand by my opinion of shooter error though and I don’t mean that as an insult. I’ve struggled with it before if I hadn’t shot often enough and I’ve been shooting since I was a kid too. Nothing to be embarrassed about.hi western duck - thanks for the tips. I grew up shooting all kinds of things.. i certainly dont flinch - ive shot 150 rounds thru this rifle, and fwiw the loads are alot softer than the box ammo- not sure if thats the powder or neck tension etc but at 100 yards there shouldnt be much difference. anyway its certainly not me flinching at all i can guarantee you that.
We shoot off steady rests with lots of support so movement is tiny - why everyone is assuming im super incapable here is quite interesting. Im fairly new to reloading and was wondering if that might have been a factor. Ill just ignore all the people making fun of me i really dont care -
Thanks for the tips though at least you came across as a gentleman. Too much moonshiners in here clearly who dole over their superior knowledge.
My comm skills must suck to throw so many ppl way off target lol .. anwyay it is what it is.
WIll call cabellas and look at upgrading to a leupold vx3 hopefully my random issues will be gone..
Maybe there's a market we aren't taking advantage of? There's a fairly new song where the singer talks about how he "has a guy for that". Maybe I could be the rifle sighter in guy for that! Paid to shoot other people's guns for them. Man, what a life.So you had some guy at Cabelas bore sight your rifles and you figured that was good enough to go hunting?
I afraid I can’t help you.
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No.Primarily trying to root out if a bad load could cause anomalies like this
For 200 yard shooting, a volume load will be as accurate as a weighed load. Giving proper brass prep is followed.fwiw i calibrate my scale and have my LEE setup the same for all these loads.. 58 grains is on the entry level for this powder far as ive seen.
Why would you hunt with a rifle that some dude at Cabela’s “sighted in” for you? It seems absolutely insane to just pick up a rifle from Cabela’s of all places that was sighted in by some random dude then just go straight out and hunt.My goodness. Ok i get it might not make sense but I was reloading as a hobby, we bought our guns RIGHT before seasona nd did not have chance to shoot them, hence why i missed horribly at 100 yards. The guns were sighted at cabellas initially by a very old man with bad eye sight.
After that ordeal we took it to the desert and I started shooting my loads which i did as a hobby - and compared to 2 boxes of store ammo, both yielded similar results - our initial correction on the scopes was literally 20 or more clicks out, it was so bad we couldnt believe it. OVer the few trips weve dialed them in a little here and there - and the rifles have performed well, except for the oddball critter here and there - that makes NO SENSE hence this post.
Reloading is doable which I can do after work on the kitchen table versus having to plan a whole 2 day trip into no mans land to get to a place where we can safely shoot miles and miles away from any other humans.
The scope I mounted here as well with my torque wrench and loctite- so that should explain that.
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No problem dude. Just trying to be helpful. I stand by my opinion of shooter error though and I don’t mean that as an insult. I’ve struggled with it before if I hadn’t shot often enough and I’ve been shooting since I was a kid too. Nothing to be embarrassed about.
You said you’re an engine builder so we probably think the same, I’m a diesel mechanic. Let me try to give an analogy- if your wife came to you and said she thinks her car has an issue. What do you do? I’d go out and inspect it in the driveway(inspecting the rifle at home). Then I’d take it for a test drive if I didn’t find anything(going out shooting) to try and replicate the problem. I wouldn’t just buy parts and guess.
Whatever the problem is you want to address it before hunting again. You owe it to the animal to be 100 percent confident that you can kill it ethically. And to be honest you don’t sound that confident, which is why others are hazing you.
I hope you get everything figured out though and stick around. This is a pretty cool and informative site.
Why would you hunt with a rifle that some dude at Cabela’s “sighted in” for you? It seems absolutely insane to just pick up a rifle from Cabela’s of all places that was sighted in by some random dude then just go straight out and hunt.
Go to a shooting range and get sighted in at 100, heck find an indoor range and get sighted in at 50, that would be much better than doing what you did.