Is it all Leopolds

[IDVortex]

Like I said earlier, its called a wandering zero, look it up if you need to. And binos and spotting scopes are for viewing, a scope is an aiming device.

False, I use my scope all the time to view things instead of binos. I would've never realized how many people were out in the woods if I didn't do that.

*this is satire. (If you don't know what satire is, lord help you for being a easy prey to bully online)

 

[Reburn]

Please Enlighten me.

A tight group is from the ammo/barrel. The scope will be for viewing. Even if it shifts, that group should remain.


Unless it shifts multiple moa after each trigger pull.

Like Bmart said.
A scope is an aiming device. Not a spotting device.
Think of it this way.
Every time recoil hits the scope the crosshairs move a little making the group bigger.
Then you airm with the crosshairs that are in a different place then they were last shot realitive to the bore.
This can be observed in the maven drop tests. Upon repeated 36" drops then a shot the size of the group will get bigger but the group remains zeroed. So if you drop the gun 3 times and shoot and then 3 times and shoot until you have shot 10 shots the group will be larger then if you just shoot 10 shots.

 

[bmart2622]

False, I use my scope all the time to view things instead of binos. I would've never realized how many people were out in the woods if I didn't do that.

*this is satire. (If you don't know what satire is, lord help you for being a easy prey to bully online)

I can beat on something with my rifle, that doesnt make it a hammer....oops I jumped the gun and replied before I rasd the satire part, my bad

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

Like I said earlier, its called a wandering zero, look it up if you need to. And binos and spotting scopes are for viewing, a scope is an aiming device.

So…viewing your target is only for Binos and spotters? Hmmmm…pretty sure when I look in my scope I see a target…

Because I’ve used my Binos or naked eye to identify the object before hand.

You must hang out with Form. Cult. Viewing. Etc…

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

now…what if a leupold is mounted on a tikka. Does the tikka’s perfection cancel out the leupold’s discrepancies?

Asking for us not cult memebers.

 

[Jake Larsen]

Like Bmart said.
A scope is an aiming device. Not a spotting device.
Think of it this way.
Every time recoil hits the scope the crosshairs move a little making the group bigger.
Then you airm with the crosshairs that are in a different place then they were last shot realitive to the bore.
This can be observed in the maven drop tests. Upon repeated 36" drops then a shot the size of the group will get bigger but the group remains zeroed. So if you drop the gun 3 times and shoot and then 3 times and shoot until you have shot 10 shots the group will be larger then if you just shoot 10 shots.

Careful bringing up empirical evidence based on well constructed testing. That’s cult behavior


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[Jake Larsen]

So…viewing your target is only for Binos and spotters? Hmmmm…pretty sure when I look in my scope I see a target…

Because I’ve used my Binos or naked eye to identify the object before hand.

You must hang out with Form. Cult. Viewing. Etc…

You’ve got to be just trolling at this point…


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[pacoalcracker]

Oh no...now the Form cult is really going to get upset. Now you did it.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

You’ve got to be just trolling at this point…


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It’s been a troll nothing 100% serious from the beginning cult comment.

 

[Jake Larsen]

Oh no...now the Form cult is really going to get upset. Now you did it.

Instead of spending endless hours arguing with Form on here, you anti-Form cult members could put your heads together and construct your own tests, proving the Form cult completely wrong once and for all. Then you’d be able to contribute something useful to this forum. Everybody wins!


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[Yukon Cornelius]

It’s been a troll nothing 100% serious from the beginning cult comment.

Some truth though. But a scope is used to view. Aiming requires a line of sight. Which requires viewing.


I do know there are people that use a scope to scan their surrounding and use it like a spotter or Binos but not myself. I’ve been flagged enough down south to know better.

But you busted me. As mentioned. I don’t really care one way or the other. Have fun. Try to make people laugh. If they get upset…well, then they may need some edibles.

 

[bmart2622]

So…viewing your target is only for Binos and spotters? Hmmmm…pretty sure when I look in my scope I see a target…

Because I’ve used my Binos or naked eye to identify the object before hand.

You must hang out with Form. Cult. Viewing. Etc…

Whats the main job of a scope? Ive never met Form but I do relate with the common sense crowd, unfortunately it doesn't look like we have room for you

 

[Jake Larsen]

Some truth though. But a scope is used to view. Aiming requires a line of sight. Which requires viewing.


I do know there are people that use a scope to scan their surrounding and use it like a spotter or Binos but not myself. I’ve been flagged enough down south to know better.

But you busted me. As mentioned. I don’t really care one way or the other. Have fun. Try to make people laugh. If they get upset…well, then they may need some edibles.

If you’re just here to troll, that’s cool man. Some of us are here to actually learn something, or help someone else out based on our experiences. Most of us on here are pretty serous about our sport, and take it seriously. If you’ve got time to stir the pot just for the heck of it, good on ya.


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[Billy Goat]

now…what if a leupold is mounted on a tikka. Does the tikka’s perfection cancel out the leupold’s discrepancies?

Asking for us not cult memebers.

My experience says no.

Even the mighty tikka wasn't enough to overcome the curse of the golden ring.


Your mileage could vary, especially if you don't measure it, and assume.

 

[pacoalcracker]

not anti-anyone.....i read Form's drop tests and he at least convinced me enough to purchase 2 NF scopes to try out....not chump change, however I'm still good with using my Leupolds for my "hunting" uses while I try out these NF scopes.....if I was a competitor or shooting animals or even paper at long yardages regularly maybe that would yield a different thought. Until I get a Leupold that actually does fail me, like others say they have experienced, I will continue to use them. Perhaps if other RS members stop trashing those that like Leupolds we would not be having this go on at all. We can like and use different things based on individual needs/uses w/o the bash fest.

 

[slatebuilder]

One of my friends pulled out his rifle to check it quick before heading to the hunting camp. Prior to Friday It had been in the safe for 2 weeks since its last range use. It shifted enough to miss a deer at 100 yards. His leupold will be for sale as soon as he choose a replacement.

 

[bmart2622]

not anti-anyone.....i read Form's drop tests and he at least convinced me enough to purchase 2 NF scopes to try out....not chump change, however I'm still good with using my Leupolds for my "hunting" uses while I try out these NF scopes.....if I was a competitor or shooting animals or even paper at long yardages regularly maybe that would yield a different thought. Until I get a Leupold that actually does fail me, like others say they have experienced, I will continue to use them. Perhaps if other RS members stop trashing those that like Leupolds we would not be having this go on at all. We can like and use different things based on individual needs/uses w/o the bash fest.

You mention not trashing members yet you just referenced the Form cult!!

 

[jimh406]

Prior to Friday It had been in the safe for 2 weeks since its last range use. It shifted enough to miss a deer at 100 yards.

I'm sure it was just the scope.

 

[Billy Goat]

I have a low use Leupold if anyone is interested in it.

Pulled it off a gun a dozen years ago. Glass looks perfect, can't exactly remember why I took it off now, guess my memory is just fading. Been sitting on a shelf.




First treefiddy gets it.

 

[Jake Larsen]

You mention not trashing members yet you just referenced the Form cult!!

lol I had exactly the same thought. This coming from the side of the argument that’s been calling everyone cult members for engaging in testing of their own gear and sharing/trusting empirical evidence


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