Is a 5" suppressor perfect for the 22CM?

[jonpall]

I have an AB 10 stack and a DD Wolfhunter and quite a few more including the scythe. The wolfhunter is the perfect can for a short barreled 6mm or 22 IMO.

How does the wolf hunter compare to the scythe?

 

[ID_Matt]

I have an ultra 5 that I thought would be perfect for my 18" 22CM and 6CM, but it sure leaves you wanting more in terms of recoil/noise reduction. It is a big difference when comparing it to a 6-7" can. I ended up ordering a scythe TI. Not sure what I will do with the 5. The only thing it would make sense for might be a sheep hunt where I am truly counting every ounce.

 

[Shortschaf]

I have an ultra 5 that I thought would be perfect for my 18" 22CM and 6CM, but it sure leaves you wanting more in terms of recoil/noise reduction. It is a big difference when comparing it to a 6-7" can. I ended up ordering a scythe TI. Not sure what I will do with the 5. The only thing it would make sense for might be a sheep hunt where I am truly counting every ounce.

This kind of confirms what I suspected with the 5. I had little experience around them, but figured it would be instant buyer's remorse.
Thanks for the summary

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I have an AB 10 stack and a DD Wolfhunter and quite a few more including the scythe. The wolfhunter is the perfect can for a short barreled 6mm or 22 IMO.

In terms of sound suppression where do you rank those 3, I have been tossing around all 3 as future options? I have a raptor 8 currently and will eventually get another can and have considered getting a 6mm sized one for 243/6cm/223 usage like the wolf hunter but then I question not just getting another 30cal can for versatility.

AB tested a 16" 223 with the 5.56 raptor 8 (123.9db) vs 7.62 raptor 8 (127.3db) vs 7.62 raptor 8 with a 5.56 end cap (125.3db).

 

[Lawnboi]

I have an ultra 5 that I thought would be perfect for my 18" 22CM and 6CM, but it sure leaves you wanting more in terms of recoil/noise reduction. It is a big difference when comparing it to a 6-7" can. I ended up ordering a scythe TI. Not sure what I will do with the 5. The only thing it would make sense for might be a sheep hunt where I am truly counting every ounce.

The smaller cans seem to work fine on 223. A 6.5 ultra 5 is still on my list for a permanent 223 suppressor. Hard to justify when I have a 6.5 ultra 7 though.


That said OP I can say that I can tell a difference between my 30 cal and 6.5 cal ultra 7 on my 223/22 creed.

 

[Tahoe1305]

I’ve compared a Scythe to a DD STi (wolf hunter with bigger bore) and thought the STi was a tad quieter. Fairly confident the wolf hunter on a smaller bore cartridge would be even better.

If I ever go 6mm (-) it’s my next purchase.

 

[SloppyJ]

In terms of sound suppression where do you rank those 3, I have been tossing around all 3 as future options? I have a raptor 8 currently and will eventually get another can and have considered getting a 6mm sized one for 243/6cm/223 usage like the wolf hunter but then I question not just getting another 30cal can for versatility.

AB tested a 16" 223 with the 5.56 raptor 8 (123.9db) vs 7.62 raptor 8 (127.3db) vs 7.62 raptor 8 with a 5.56 end cap (125.3db).

It's a bit hard to compare due to what I shoot them on. I haven't done a back to back to back test on one gun but I could on my 6 creed.

In terms of straight sound suppression:
1. AB Raptor 10 with 3" reflex
2. Dd wolfhunter
3. Scythe

I shoot the AB on almost everything, I shoot the Wolfhunter on my .223 and 6 creed, and I've only shot the scythe on my 300prc. Hard to compare the DD and the Scythe since the scythe is handling much larger cartridges.

They all serve different purposes though. I got the scythe for a lightweight hunting can. Same for the wolfhunter but for 22s and 6mms. The AB was my first can and I was going for maximum sound suppression.

If I were to do it again, I'd probably spring for the DD enticer ti instead of the scythe. Although I will say the scythe has been super consistent out to 1200yds but so has the wolfhunter. At this point I have 7 cans and they all have different pros and cons.

 

[SloppyJ]

How does the wolf hunter compare to the scythe?

Couldn't give you an honest answer. I haven't shot them back to back on my 6 creed but I'd be willing to bet the wolfhunter is quieter just based on the bore diameter. As a bystander, the wolfhunter is stupid quiet.

 

[CMP70306]

So my experience is a Nomad-Ti and a Nomad-L on an 18” .22-250. The Ti has a noticeably louder and unpleasant crack to it when shot under a roof compared to the L. I pretty much require hearing protection when shooting the Ti on that rifle but with the L is is quiet enough that it does not bother my ears. It is better than unsuppressed but other than a shot or two while hunting I’m putting hearing protection in.

I believe only a dedicated .22 Cal can would make a 6” or shorter can tolerable to shoot.

 

[jonpall]

I believe only a dedicated .22 Cal can would make a 6” or shorter can tolerable to shoot.

I wouldn't mind getting a dedicated titanium 22 cal can for 223 and 22cm. Will have to look into one.

 

[Stocky]

Depends on what you want to be fair most cans in NZ are 4 inch forward or less and "reflex" 4inchs plus overbarrel. A 6 inch forward can in NZ is a long can compared to typical. But I guess we don't has tax stamps and regularly run aluminium suppressors so it's a bit of a different market.

 

[Liftman101]

Silencerco sells Titanium front caps that eliminate the front ports make it slightly shorter and supposedly make the Scythe even quieter. They sell the front cap in a .223 bore size as well as a .30 cal. Has anyone tried this?

Since the Scythe is shorter and lighter, albeit larger in diameter than the DD Wolfhunter, this seems like a good option.

 

[Cameron.25]

Silencerco sells Titanium front caps that eliminate the front ports make it slightly shorter and supposedly make the Scythe even quieter. They sell the front cap in a .223 bore size as well as a .30 cal. Has anyone tried this?

Since the Scythe is shorter and lighter, albeit larger in diameter than the DD Wolfhunter, this seems like a good option.

Yes, this is how I use my scythe these days in my 22cm and 6mm prc. It does not sound as quiet as the wolf hunter but it is indeed shorter and lighter

 

[CaptArab]

The smaller the can, the .ore important bore size becomes. In something like a nomad l / Magnus / Hyperion it doesn't matter at all, but for k can its a big difference.

Someone mentioned the sandman k is loud, but yeah duh that's like a 35 bore k can plus it's like 5 in he's with the big stupid lock twist thing. Even a cheapo turbo k sounds fine on a ~20" 5.56 and it only has 2 baffles.

A 5 inch can is capable of sounding fine for occasional/ hunting use, especially on longer barrels with small powder charges and with a tighter bore diameter (22/6mm).

 

[thinhorn_AK]

A few years ago I thought an ultra 5 was the ultimate silencer for a lightweight mountain rifle, I’m glad I got to try one before I bought one. I ended up buying an ultra 7.

The scythe is great too, I’ve got one of those as well and I’ve been happy enough with it.