Idaho Files Criminal Complaint Against Ryan Lampers Over Trophy Deer, Lion, and Wolf Cases

[voltage]

With how many violations he's been involved in I'm surprised Muley Freak hasn't lost his hunting privileges.

I blame the outfitter, not them, for this one. But the fact that anybody watches their videos is mind blowing to me.

 

[resident vs nonresident]

There’s deer along the Platte river and Cherry Creek? What’s the point creep in those units? . Fair point though.

Wasn’t there a story few years ago in the news that some buck was strolling around somewhere along Platter in greater Denver area with arrow sticking out of it? Some hobo prob tried archery

Found it I think this is what I was thinking. Golden so not too far from downtown
https://www.denvergazette.com/2019/...olorado-9ac6ea3c-3557-51f9-a821-fd6aa6e001b0/

 

[wapitibob]

With how many violations he's been involved in I'm surprised Muley Freak hasn't lost his hunting privileges.

5 years in UT.
Pled Guilty in ID and paid a small fine.
Still claims he's never been convicted or lost hunting.

 

[Floated_down]

Sorry but this guy doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy. That is quite the rapsheet of repeated offenses, by a guy who 100% knows the rules, and then straight up lying to cover up offenses and steal money from fish and game. Obviously he won't get 27 years or anywhere close to that, but some considerable time in the clink is absolutely in order, or else this type of behavior will continue.

If he were smart he'd just say he went on a weeklong meth bender and remembers nothing between Dec 1 and Dec 9

 

[Idaboy]

Bet it all mounts to minimal....lifetime ban from hunting would be best

 

[Roosterstraw]

Still no mention of how he was caught.

 

[GoBig]

I don't think people realize that even in the middle of nowhere, you are never really alone. There are people in every corner, and everyone has optics, phone, and an ollin or to record. So many people get turned in by a witness they don't even know is there. Last year around here someone filmed somebody but 2 arrows in a big bull the day before the archery season.

Or the old fashioned, loose lips sink ships. It only takes one person to report one thing and they are watching you. He won't get 27 years; a lifetime hunting ban would probably hurt him more than anything. From what I have heard on his private side, he is going to suffer a lot more than just the loss of hunting and jail time.

 

[KenLee]

Yes, it’s a common defense strategy. The further you can get from the incident and the longer you can drag it out, the better off you usually are as a defendant.

If Defense pushes for a strict and speedy schedule, the prosecution cries like babies. It goes both ways.

 

[KenLee]

“If convicted, Lampers could face up to 27 and a half years in prison, and a lifetime revocation of his hunting, fishing, and trapping licenses.”

I wondered why he sold his house and disappeared. I feel bad for his kids, really. Obviously he’s not going to prison for 27 years but this is way more serious than I thought.

He's 51. Kids should be getting their own game tickets.

 

[velvet muley]

He will plea out of the felony and and will end up paying fines and some sort of a ban. I'd be surprised if he spends more than 30 days in the big house.

 

[KenLee]

When are is the general hunting public going to stop worshipping these “influencers”?

Well, he did kill a wolf!!!

 

[Q_Sertorius]

If Defense pushes for a strict and speedy schedule, the prosecution cries like babies. It goes both ways.

No one said otherwise. There are all sorts of [usually bad] reasons why an overworked or lazy prosecutor might want to delay, but in the time I spent practicing criminal law (as a civilian and military) the usual mantra was “delay is good for the defense.” Unless there is critical lab work that is delayed, the prosecution’s case usually ages like milk, not wine.

My co-counsel and I got one felony sexual assault case rushed to trial in under six months because we knew our client was actually innocent and was sitting in confinement (our client got acquitted), but it was far more usual for the defense to delay.

As a prosecutor, I watched the speedy trial clock like a hawk and would wake up in the middle of the night worrying that some commander had thrown a Marine in the brig without telling us. As a supervisory prosecutor, my newbies had to have a very, very, very good reason to allow a case to drag out. And being scared of losing didn’t cut it.

 

[KenLee]

No one said otherwise. There are all sorts of [usually bad] reasons why an overworked or lazy prosecutor might want to delay, but in the time I spent practicing criminal law (as a civilian and military) the usual mantra was “delay is good for the defense.” Unless there is critical lab work that is delayed, the prosecution’s case usually ages like milk, not wine.

My co-counsel and I got one felony sexual assault case rushed to trial in under six months because we knew our client was actually innocent and was sitting in confinement (our client got acquitted), but it was far more usual for the defense to delay.

As a prosecutor, I watched the speedy trial clock like a hawk and would wake up in the middle of the night worrying that some commander had thrown a Marine in the brig without telling us. As a supervisory prosecutor, my newbies had to have a very, very, very good reason to allow a case to drag out. And being scared of losing didn’t cut it.

Then there's a big difference in military vs civilization prosecuter (elected solicitor) who has no intention of trying a case with a 20% chance of losing.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Then there's a big difference in military vs civilization prosecuter (elected solicitor) who has no intention of trying a case with a 20% chance of losing.

I agree there. The civilians don’t usually take cases to trial unless they are basically guaranteed to win. We had a few cases where dual jurisdiction applied (service member accused of committing a crime off base). The only case the local DA ever took away from me was one where the accused recorded himself committing the sexual assault.

 

[87TT]

Maybe he should have just opened a day care in Minnesota?

 

[justin davis]

Maybe he should have just opened a day care in Minnesota?

That would have been the smarter move to make a lot of money

 

[Andrew12gauge]

Probably pay a couple thousand in fines lose privileges for 2 years and get 180 days jail time that will be suspended in lieu of probation. That’s usually how poaching cases go


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[Pacific_Fork]

Probably pay a couple thousand in fines lose privileges for 2 years and get 180 days jail time that will be suspended in lieu of probation. That’s usually how poaching cases go


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This isn’t your standard poaching case. It’s the fact that he committed fraud against the F4WM and the state that’s going to get him in the end. And rightfully so!

 

[Coopsdaddy]

From my perspective, for a guy that loves to hunt, lives for it, being stripped for life would be my/many people's own personal prison. It would destroy me.

The prison stuff? Come one, 27 years? That's excessive!

Here's a funny one, you pass by a crick bottom that holds a ton of deer. It could be posted private, most likely not. You know you can't just hunt it due to trespassing issues etc. You go by the same crick bottom river a week later and the drug addicts have tent city in there no issue....... Have a lap around Denver.

Edit, I do think that Gritty guy puts out some great content for sure.

Definitely and grittys films are the best I have seen.
Not a fanboy of anyone but i will give him that,how he narrates and tells the story.

 

[Coveyleader]

Definitely and grittys films are the best I have seen.
Not a fanboy of anyone but i will give him that,how he narrates and tells the story.

Agree 100%