IADNR bans cell cam "scouting" during hunting season

[TheWhitetailNut]

What gives you the right to put up trail cameras on public land?

This isn’t about fair chase. It isn’t about whether or not I want to use trail cameras. It’s about how some people want to utilize public land as if it was their own private land.


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I don't understand your position, not sure you do. Are you offended someone else is having more fun or something? Now you say it's not about fair chase and it's not about whether you want to? I had hoped given your position you did not want to. Man, do you regulate the use of ketchup by other people in a restaurant too? Even if you had no plans to consume the ketchup yourself? I can see you running around yelling at people.... "NO! Not on eggs!!" This is a restaurant... Not your house.....

 

[buddys1974]

Without a string of cameras being able to track a deer, they're not truthfully real time. even on immediate upload, it still takes a few minutes for my cameras to send it up. by that time especially during the rut a buck could have moved quite a bit.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I don't understand your position, not sure you do. Are you offended someone else is having more fun or something? Now you say it's not about fair chase and it's not about whether you want to? I had hoped given your position you did not want to. Man, do you regulate the use of ketchup by other people in a restaurant too? Even if you had no plans to consume the ketchup yourself? I can see you running around yelling at people.... "NO! Not on eggs!!" This is a restaurant... Not your house.....

You don’t get to make private improvements to public lands. You don’t get to treat public land like you own it.

Totally sick of people trying to claim public lands. Totally sick of how territorial a lot of people get about public land. Totally sick of people being assholes on public land because I stumbled upon “their spot” and set up there before they dragged their ass out of bed. “Those are *my* cameras! Can’t you see them?! I put in that food plot! This is my spot!”


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[Muley Tag]

Get rid of all those full-time surveillance cameras, I say........jeez, give the critters a break.

 

[TheWhitetailNut]

You don’t get to make private improvements to public lands. You don’t get to treat public land like you own it.

Totally sick of people trying to claim public lands. Totally sick of how territorial a lot of people get about public land. Totally sick of people being assholes on public land because I stumbled upon “their spot” and set up there before they dragged their ass out of bed. “Those are *my* cameras! Can’t you see them?! I put in that food plot! This is my spot!”


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OK. So, no cameras, no tree stands, no ground blinds. YOU don't get to treat public land like you own it if nobody else can.

Based on the rest of your response might I suggest some therapy...

 

[Q_Sertorius]

OK. So, no cameras, no tree stands, no ground blinds. YOU don't get to treat public land like you own it if nobody else can.

Based on the rest of your response might I suggest some therapy...

Agreed. No private cameras, tree stands, or ground blinds, or similar improvements, on public lands.

If the public, through elected representatives and their appointees, chooses to put those improvements out there for everyone to use, then we can treat them like any other public improvements. At which point, just like reserving a fire pit at the local park for your Memorial Day barbecue, who gets to use it can be handled through a normal process.

The whole point of public land is that it belongs to the collective public. Not to individual members of the public. It is regulated so that no individual member of the public over exploits it for his own benefit (the well known tragedy of the commons). Public land doesn’t belong to the person who “claims it first” or is willing to be the most obnoxious to anyone around him. You may be a reasonable person, but we have rules and processes in place because there are plenty of people who are not.

This isn’t a difficult concept.


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[TheWhitetailNut]

Agreed. No private cameras, tree stands, or ground blinds, or similar improvements, on public lands.

If the public, through elected representatives and their appointees, chooses to put those improvements out there for everyone to use, then we can treat them like any other public improvements. At which point, just like reserving a fire pit at the local park for your Memorial Day barbecue, who gets to use it can be handled through a normal process.

The whole point of public land is that it belongs to the collective public. Not to individual members of the public. It is regulated so that no individual member of the public over exploits it for his own benefit (the well known tragedy of the commons). Public land doesn’t belong to the person who “claims it first” or is willing to be the most obnoxious to anyone around him. You may be a reasonable person, but we have rules and processes in place because there are plenty of people who are not.

This isn’t a difficult concept.


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While I don't agree with you, I'll give you credit for the congruence of your argument.

Have a Merry Christmas.

 

[TSAMP]

Agreed. No private cameras, tree stands, or ground blinds, or similar improvements, on public lands.

If the public, through elected representatives and their appointees, chooses to put those improvements out there for everyone to use, then we can treat them like any other public improvements. At which point, just like reserving a fire pit at the local park for your Memorial Day barbecue, who gets to use it can be handled through a normal process.

The whole point of public land is that it belongs to the collective public. Not to individual members of the public. It is regulated so that no individual member of the public over exploits it for his own benefit (the well known tragedy of the commons). Public land doesn’t belong to the person who “claims it first” or is willing to be the most obnoxious to anyone around him. You may be a reasonable person, but we have rules and processes in place because there are plenty of people who are not.

This isn’t a difficult concept.


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There is a county park here in Iowa that is run like this. It's a draw hunt. I put in for years, thinking it'd be a fun hunt (doe only) close to my home. Once I actually read the rules I never applied again. They count your arrows on the way in and out. You must notify them the tree and area you will be in and cannot move once out. You cannot track your deer without retrieving a park ranger first. Blah blah blah. I understand there are reasons for all this but no thanks.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

While I don't agree with you, I'll give you credit for the congruence of your argument.

Have a Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you too!


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