hunting/gun dogs

unm1136

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My wife wants a doberman when she finishes school. My first dog was a dobe, so I am OK with that. I have access to one of the top police canine trainers in the country, and will be doing Schutz and Ring Sport with him. Once the dog is titled I want to adapt some of those skills to outdoor work. I am not a big bird hunter, but in my state it is legal to track/trail a wounded animal.

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Neil B

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Husky,

He's about 79-80 at ideal working weight. I got him from Diamond Brook in western Vermont before I moved out of New England. NFC patton grandson, father is a Master Mational Hall of Fame dog. Very hot running dogs though that require a solid plan, and LARGE amounts of work and exercise.

Towards the end of my under grad work, I interned under a pro for about 2 years. Very educational.. My dog got to work 3-6 days a week and it was awesome, but unfortunately then I moved and life got in the way. I'm hoping to relocate to a more suitable retriever state for grad school. Not working my dog eats at me bad.

Think my next puppy will, most likely, be coming from Stephen Durrence at Taylor Farms Kennel in GA. He works some very accomplished HRC/SRS dogs.

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Floorguy

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Schleppy, I will bite. GWP's originally were Drahthaar's. However due to the unrestricted breeding and AKC involvement there is a change if you look there are two different standards for size, coat and comformation when looking at the two. For example the color white on a GWP the more the better for AKC for the VDD too much and it will not be allowed to breed. As for the $ of a DD vs a GWP that is all dependant on the breeder and the pairing of the dogs. My brother in law is getting a GWP in SD that costs as much as my DD. I think with any dog regardless of breed, it takes due diligence on the part of the buyer and the then owner to follow through on raising it right. BTW a pudelpointer was another one on the list I was looking at.

Let me know what books and videos you have I would definitely be interested in borrowing them. The NAVHDA training coordinator is a draht guy and is who hooked me up with my breeder. I was going and helping with their training classes last summer.
 

ben h

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The Drahthaar is a tough all round dog to beat. I've had Drahthaar's and Labs and for upland the Drahthaar makes the lab's look like a sack of hammers. For waterfowl the Drahthaar does pretty good unless it's really cold, but the labs are better in my experience. I waterfowl way more than upland so I'm going lab for my next pup. One thing with Drahthaar's, is they do not just "chill", they're always "on", which drives me crazy in the house. Another thing I didn't like about the Drahthaar, was aggression towards smaller dogs/cats; mine never killed a dog, but picked up a few, but I was there and had her drop them pretty quick. She's killed 1/2 a dozen or so cats, a few marmots, tried to kill a river otter (got her ass kicked), and made 1 attempt on a porcupine which was also a fail. I also didn't like the fact that you can't run a Drahthaar w/o a shock collar. The Drahthaar is an intense dog and really cool to see in a bird field though. If I had more land and time to work one, I'd definitely get another.
 

cliffyj

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Congrats on the Drath. You'll absolutely love him. I've got one and had him since a pup for almost six years now. Aggressive in the field, extremely energetic, and despite what my wife says, very smart. Not to mention just simply a good family dog. Mine would rather die from exhaustion then to stop running. He can be a wuss in the cold though.
 

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I'm really partial to labs. They're almost a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde personality. Amazing family dogs around the house and absolute beasts once they get into field or the woods. This is Kodah, 3 years old in these pictures. He runs between 85-90 pounds depending on the time of year.


 

Jazzdog

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i've had GSP's, a Lab, a Chessie, and now am running a Boykin. The Lab (out of wildrose kennels) was by far the best dog ive ever had but tjis Boykin is shaping up to be close 2nd and having a dog that weighs 35# and barely sheds has huge advantages. i wish i'd discovered the breed earlier.
 

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Grew up with coonhounds. Mostly Blueticks, a Walker, a Redbone and a Mountain Curr. You can't access the large timber company tracts where I live anymore and hunting the way we used to do it has become problematic. One of my bucket-list hunts is a hound-hunt for cougar before it is banned everywhere.
 
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Well here she is, Aurora vom Borealan. In the pic she is 4 weeks old. She will be 8 weeks on Wednesday. I was supposed to get her next weekend but due to breed requirements it might be a little longer. The VDD requires a breed judge/vet to look over the pups do a kennel check and give them their ear tattoo. Not having someone in Alaska that can do it means flying one in. As with everything, logistics in Alaska = awesome.

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Labs are great dogs, and for emphasis on waterfowl are a very good choice. The GWP and Drats are absolutely incredible for a true versatile dog. That's a good looking pup you have. Enjoy him, and make this first year fun for him. They are incredibly smart, and once you figure out how to train them (much different than a lab) they pick up very fast.
 
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Roger was up to judge the hzp last fall. For some reason the guy that was supposed to come up originally was from TN.
 

FirePower

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I have had Spaniels all my life, my Da was a Kennel Master for a number of estates in the UK and brought a brace with us when we emigrated when I was a Lad. I still have 2, a bitch from our original lines and a dog from Foxton Gundogs on Vancouver Island, they are amazing little dogs and do duty as both upland and water fowl dogs. A real joy to live and hunt with.
 
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