How to end NR Wyoming wilderness ban?

[bpa556]

There’s no law against nonresidents visiting wilderness areas. Go there as often as you want. The state does own the wildlife so if you just can’t hunt anywhere you want.

Nice try. The state doesn’t own the wildlife. The people own the wildlife. The state is entrusted to manage said wildlife on federal lands as well as their own.

This is a stupid state law and there’s a reason it’s not enforced. It will scare off a significant portion of non-resident hunters and will be nullified the millisecond someone challenges an actual citation.


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[Mojave]

Nice try. The state doesn’t own the wildlife. The people own the wildlife. The state is entrusted to manage said wildlife on federal lands as well as their own.

This is a stupid state law and there’s a reason it’s not enforced. It will scare off a significant portion of non-resident hunters and will be nullified the millisecond someone challenges an actual citation.


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Step up cowboy, hope you have deep pockets.

 

[bpa556]

Everyone wants something for nothing. They see taking something that isn’t theirs as a good thing.

Not one single word of this post makes any sense as far as the thread is concerned.


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[Dos Perros]

Here's the 2023 Wyoming Annual LawEnforcement Report. The word "wilderness" doesn't even show up in it.

https://wgfd.wyo.gov/sites/default/files/2024-07/2023%20LE%20Report.pdf

 

[307]

Your talking apples and oranges.

I’m illustrating the point that the state makes the rules. Period.

 

[Dos Perros]

I’m illustrating the point that the state makes the rules. Period.

Could a state make a rule that only white people can hunt the wilderness?

 

[OKHunter84]

Could a state make a rule that only white people can hunt the wilderness?

I could see California making a law similar to that, but only reverse

 

[bpa556]

Step up cowboy, hope you have deep pockets.

It won’t take deep pockets. The state will foot the bill when they lose and everyone knows it.

That’s why they don’t write tickets for it!!! Gotta have standing to file suit…


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[satchamo]

I for one am way less concerned about WY wilderness than I am about them moving to 90:10 on elk…

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Did state residency become a protected class, illegal to discriminate against? Weak argument...

 

[Sierra Hunter]

I want to see the poll of folks that would be willing to pony up $ to fight it. I know I would. Any attorneys present here that would be willing to opine or have the muscle of a firm who would entertain this case?

 

[steelheadmike]

I want to see the poll of folks that would be willing to pony up $ to fight it. I know I would. Any attorneys present here that would be willing to opine or have the muscle of a firm who would entertain this case?

I would donate just like I did for the corner crossing case.

 

[307]

Could a state make a rule that only white people can hunt the wilderness?

Weak effort. See above

 

[wapitibob]

... it’s just regulated guide welfare?

Of course it is, no different than OR giving up to half of the nr tags to outfitters and NR only clients. Or NM giving 10% to an outfitter draw.

 

[Dos Perros]

Weak effort. See above

You want to see weak effort, take a look at the enforcement.

 

[MNGrouser]

They are regulating wildlife management.

They can regulate the wildlife management with seasons and quotas, the arbitrary wilderness designation costing NRs more has nothing to do with wildlife management. It is, as has been said, corporate welfare.


I grew up in Wisconsin where I hunted, fished and (most important to me) trapped. Wisconsin was one of the few states that did not allow NR trapping. After school I ended up moving to Minnesota which was one of the other states that was selfish in excluding NRs from trapping. My home-state finally saw the light and opened trapping for nonresidents...so long as they came from states that also allowed NR trapping. My "new" home state causes me to be excluded. So I still can't trap with my family when I go home. Gotta protect those $0.75 muskrats and $15 beaver from the greedy NRs!

 

[steelheadmike]

This case went to the WY Supreme Court in 1986. Conviction upheld 3-2.

O'Brien v. State

O'Brien v. State - 1986 WY 8, 711 P.2d 1144

law.justia.com

Edit: I just read through the whole opinion. The justification for the affirmation is shaky at best. The dissenting opinion at the end basically blows the whole argument apart. And, not surprisingly, it is saying the same things as we are now, almost 39 years later.

 

[wapitibob]

This case went to the WY Supreme Court in 1986. Conviction upheld 3-2.

O'Brien v. State

O'Brien v. State - 1986 WY 8, 711 P.2d 1144

law.justia.com

so much for Rinella and internet forum lawyers

 

[Poser]

so much for Rinella and internet forum lawyers

This was the Wyoming state supreme court. Where it would seem to fall apart were if it made it to a federal court of appeals. Unsure if you could actually get that far and it would take years to get there if you did.

 

[Crowmangler]

I just wanna do whatever makes Buzz happy