Has the Ruger American Gen 2 been out long enough to be considered “proven”?

[Harvey_NW]

Thanks for chiming in I believe nearly all bolt rifles really behave this way now that you mention

If your bolt is even slightly open, the firing pin's cocking piece will force the bolt down as it travels forward, losing a ton of energy in the process.

Now that you mention that, I think I'm wrong because I remember thinking my RAP was a "cock on open" because they're hard to judge bolt lift or sticky at the top of extraction because they click naturally when cocking. Maybe it works the same on both designs?

Please excuse my ignorance, my ECM board for my HVAC fan motor went tits up and it's currently 80° ambient in my living room so I'm trying to occupy my mind while sitting here sweating..

 

[Shortschaf]

Now that you mention that, I think I'm wrong because I remember thinking my RAP was a "cock on open" because they're hard to judge bolt lift or sticky at the top of extraction because they click naturally when cocking. Maybe it works the same on both designs?

Please excuse my ignorance, my ECM board for my HVAC fan motor went tits up and it's currently 80° ambient in my living room so I'm trying to occupy my mind while sitting here sweating..

That click is just a notch on the cocking ramp. If you are above that notch (bolt is fully open), the firing pin will not fall

If below that notch, most firing pins will fall, but in falling they must force themselves down the rest of the ramp (closing the bolt) before they can travel fully forward

I say "most" since maybe some model rifle out there wont do this, but Im not aware of one.

Anyway, if I understand Mallard's story correctly, I don't think what happened is a design flaw unique to the RA

 

[coyotekilla]

I have no idea what a m-carbo spring is. But no. I didn’t touch anything.

So mallard, what was the fix, did you end up getting her a savage or what did ya do?

 

[MallardSX2]

So mallard, what was the fix, did you end up getting her a savage or what did ya do?

I wouldn’t do something that terrible to a child….lol

Got her a Howa Superlite 7-08

 

[coyotekilla]

I wouldn’t do something that terrible to a child….lol

Got her a Howa Superlite 7-08

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My lgs had a 6.5 cm superlight, felt sureal, like too light. Definable wouldn't have wanted it in a snappy recoiling cartridge, but, id love it as a backpack rifle.

 

[MallardSX2]

I wouldn't want it in a 308 but the 7mm-08 is pretty good for my daughter.... With the muzzle brake, recoil is minimal but its very loud obviously. She isnt afraid of it with 140 grain accubonds for her upcoming elk hunt.

 

[Shortschaf]

Got the RA gen 2 .223 bedded last night.

took it out to zero and test a few cheap ammo options, and two of five shot good enough I may never try to reload for it

Other three grouped awful, but including for anyone reading through. It handled the two 556 ammos no problem.

Did not show pressure with any of these. Velocities in pictures. Shots were 100yds prone, bipod, bag, with a TBAC ultra 7

So far would definitely recommend these in the <$550 range if you don't hate a swept grip (or a little DIY work)
If I could get a stainless Tikka for a $100 more, I'd take that option to avoid the need for stock work. But happy with mine, especially for a beater 223

 

[Cdnance]

Got the RA gen 2 .223 bedded last night.

took it out to zero and test a few cheap ammo options, and two of five shot good enough I may never try to reload for it

Other three grouped awful, but including for anyone reading through. It handled the two 556 ammos no problem.

Did not show pressure with any of these. Velocities in pictures. Shots were 100yds prone, bipod, bag, with a TBAC ultra 7

So far would definitely recommend these in the <$550 range if you don't hate a swept grip (or a little DIY work)
If I could get a stainless Tikka for a $100 more, I'd take that option to avoid the need for stock work. But happy with mine, especially for a beater 223

Just throwing this out there.
Wolf shouldn’t be considered when looking for accuracy. Just from my limited experience.
you’ve got 223/556 and a pretty good spread of grains. Were any of them consistent?

 

[Randle]

These are my groups at 50 yards bench shooting so far with RAR 556.
Just playing with random ammo 5 shots each
Bone stock rifle with a SWFA 6X

 

[flyfisher117]

Do the 223s feed reliably? I have a Rem700 that feeds 90% from AI pattern mags. I love it for varmints and flat range shooting but I’m debating a RA Gen 2 that uses AR mags for a field gun.

 

[Shortschaf]

Do the 223s feed reliably? I have a Rem700 that feeds 90% from AI pattern mags. I love it for varmints and flat range shooting but I’m debating a RA Gen 2 that uses AR mags for a field gun.

Mine has fed 100% reliably in the factory stock with both magpul and aluminum mags in 100 rounds

 

[KenLee]

I would love a mini-action Tikka. That would be sex-on-wheels.


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“Keep on keepin’ on…”

Don't hold your breath. Tikka won't even produce a short action.

 

[KenLee]

Its like you are trying to make it uglier

Not trying, succeeded

 

[KenLee]

Just remember. Everyone will poo poo them now. In 30 years it will be a collector piece and some old timer will pay $1k for it. Same thing happened to the M77 rifles lol

I'd hunt my old red pad m77s alot if they weren't heavy

 

[KenLee]

Rubbermaid som

The toe angle is extreme
But this probably won't see a rear rest that often, plus a 223 doesn't pack enough recoil for it to bother me

The heel being below the bore did bother me however. But I just finished correcting that with a chunk of pine

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Rub some gray stain on that thing.

 

[KenLee]

Hav

They kinda do remind you of the remington 788 story, a little budget gun that was a shooter.

Have you ever shot a $200 TC Compass? Insane accuracy from the 6 I've owned.

 

[BLJ]

Not trying, succeeded

Appreciate the kind words.

It’s not much of a looker, but it sure does like 75 ELDM’s.



I believe you gentlemen have inspired me.

I think I’ll call it “Lunch Meat”.

 

[coyotekilla]

Hav
Have you ever shot a $200 TC Compass? Insane accuracy from the 6 I've owned.

Handled 1 compass, it was used and not well loved, but it looked poorly built. I might have shot well, but I didn't like it's vibe.

 

[KenLee]

No di

Appreciate the kind words.

It’s not much of a looker, but it sure does like 75 ELDM’s.

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I believe you gentlemen have inspired me.

I think I’ll call it “Lunch Meat”.

No disrespect meant. Ill take a spray bomb, file, grinder and epoxy to most anything

 

[KenLee]

Handled 1 compass, it was used and not well loved, but it looked poorly built. I might have shot well, but I didn't like it's vibe.

It feels like trash...till you shoot it.
I have 2 that ride 24/7 in back floorboards of trucks. Won't cry if they get stolen, but they kill well.