Fragmenting bullets versus controlled expanding bullets

[Formidilosus]

As for the article, the synthetic may in fact be softer, but that article is going on 5 years old, mentions the supplier will be making adjustments to ensure it’s closer to 10% and he will follow up, then in 5 years no follow up article? For something so widely used today, nothing more recent is available?

There are a lot of shooters like me that look for good performance when conditions aren’t ideal, so I don’t feel bad whatsoever pointing out apparent weaknesses in bullet performance when used at extreme edge of acceptable velocity.

Apparent weakness? If you do not understand the subject- and you do not, why are you pontificating about it? Ask questions instead of giving answers.

Your beloved Partitions often do not upset at 1,800fps impact in clear gel- or at 2,000fps, yet they do in organic gel and tissue. Clear ballistics gel does not correlate to calibrated organic gel or tissue- it is used by the lazy and clueless. Water is a significantly better indicator of potential bullet upset than clear gel if someone is not going to use organic 10%.

 

[hereinaz]

For something so widely used today, nothing more recent is available?

Widely used? By whom? Only non serious people.

I know you are trying to bolster your argument, but I cant take you serious if your arguments are technically flawed.

Fake gel is used cause it is stable and easy for YouTubers to get cool videos.

I was gonna do a video, almost ordered the fake stuff until I finished research on it. Making and dealing with scientifically proven gel is actually kinda hard and needs to be precise.

 

[TaperPin]

Apparent weakness? If you do not understand the subject- and you do not, why are you pontificating about it? Ask questions instead of giving answers.

Your beloved Partitions often do not upset at 1,800fps impact in clear gel- or at 2,000fps, yet they do in organic gel and tissue. Clear ballistics gel does not correlate to calibrated organic gel or tissue- it is used by the lazy and clueless. Water is a significantly better indicator of potential bullet upset than clear gel if someone is not going to use organic 10%.

I wouldn’t use a Partition at low velocity, so that’s neither here nor there. Quite honestly I could care less who uses what bullet, but it’s easy see when ideas haven’t been well thought out, and simply repeated over and over.

If synthetic gel isn’t correct to judge bullet performance, the word needs to get out - all the big expansion cavities bragged about wouldn’t be quite as big. I think that makes sense.

I hate to be the first person to ever tell you this, but water over expands bullets - any junior high kid comparing the bullet they pulled out of an animal with the exact bullet fired into water filled plastic barrels at the same range could tell you that.

 

[TaperPin]

Widely used? By whom? Only non serious people.

I know you are trying to bolster your argument, but I cant take you serious if your arguments are technically flawed.

Fake gel is used cause it is stable and easy for YouTubers to get cool videos.

I was gonna do a video, almost ordered the fake stuff until I finished research on it. Making and dealing with scientifically proven gel is actually kinda hard and needs to be precise.

One manufacturer of synthetic gel has 100,000 blocks floating around out there, so it’s being used by more than YouTubers.

What videos do you recommend that use propper gel?

 

[TaperPin]

Tell me what you know about the optimal storage temperature for FBI gel.

I know enough that cold gel is harder than warm gel and when it’s calibrated that only applies to the temp it’s calibrated at. Isn’t that pretty basic?

 

[fwafwow]

Never concede anything - even a point!

 

[TaperPin]

Never concede anything - even a point!

I do agree with everyone that says I’m apparently not smart enough to know which source of Hornady information to blindly accept. I’m just like a lot of people looking for information - there’s a lot of inconsistencies in the available information. When I bring it up one person wants me to only watch videos with FBI gel, and the other wants me to shoot into water jugs. Others want me to just accept what Hornady says, and I trust Hornady least of all.