Elk Question

[Ryan Avery]

I was just listening to a podcast were the host described a quartering towards shot where you have to penetrate 8” to 12” of muscle before entering the chest cavity. Can anyone put logic to this? Best I can come up with is 5” tops?? Maybe he’s killing different elk then me.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Is he putting it through the brisket, or the front edge of the front shoulder? Either way, I don’t see it being anywhere near 12”.

 

[ProStaffSteve]

 

[PredatorSlayer]

The podcaster probably estimates something 4” long is closer to 8” too. You tell yourself something enough times and you are bound to start believing it…

 

[Mag_7s]

Makes sense to me.

 

[cnelk]

Depends on the angle but I can’t see more than 6-8” (with a hard angle)

Did he also mention that it will be only one lung?

 

[Savagenut]

I was just listening to a podcast were the host described a quartering towards shot where you have to penetrate 8” to 12” of muscle before entering the chest cavity. Can anyone put logic to this? Best I can come up with is 5” tops?? Maybe he’s killing different elk then me.

Neck shot ?


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[ElkNut1]

I can see 8"-12" of penetration needed on a Quartering to you shot, not hard to imagine. Where a broadside shot may be 1/2 to 1/3 of that. Just about any shot would require more penetration to get to the intended vitals when quartering to you or away from you.

ElkNut

 

[Dennis]

Agree with Elk Nut and cnelk, it depends on the angle and I would guess 8" is possible and maybe more. Especially if you add muscle, bone and hide to the mix and aim for top of the heart. Penetration is most important when bones and angled ribs are protecting the forward chest area.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Im not talking about total penetration or hide or bone. I’m asking where you would have to go through 8-12” of muscle.

 

[Ryan Avery]

HOW BULLETS KILL: Monometal vs. Lead-Core

Podcast Episode · Backcountry Hunting Podcast · 03/24/2023 · 1h 20m

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25 minute mark

 

[Scoot]

Nope. Podcaster is exaggerating, misinformed, or just blathering nonsense like a lot of podcasts do...

 

[406angler]

View attachment 535472Makes sense to me.

I see why a 338 Lapua Mag or 50 BMG is needed to kill an elk now.

 

[elkguide]

I can't say that I have ever seen an elk with "8"-12" of meat" before/after the shoulder in a 45* quartering too shot. If you count hide, bone (as in point of shoulder) meat/muscle, then maybe you could get to 8" on a very large elk but I just don't see how you could reach that 12" mark.

Must be the elk that I have shot or seen shot in Idaho, Utah, Wyoming and Montana were all way undersized compared to the elk that the podcaster is shooting.

 

[Mag_7s]

I see why a 338 Lapua Mag or 50 BMG is needed to kill an elk now.

I'd just like to know where these bulls on the juice are at. Challenge bugle would work evry time!

 

[cnelk]

Maybe the podcaster is going off what his wife told what 8" is

 

[johnsd16]

As above, he is subconsciously obsessing about 8-12" of muscle.

 

[svivian]

Must be one of those 1000lb bull elk I hear about

 

[Goodtimekiller]

Depending on where your entry is, i would say 12” could be a worst case scenario. I did not listen to the podcast but I would think he meant “tissue” not just specifically muscle.


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[Gutshot007]

I've seen elk like that before . They can all bench 350lbs . Wonder if you could get 12 inches out of a front shoulder on a cornfed black angus steer . Maybe