E-Form4 information

[Msowa]

This thread will be updated with pertinent info as I can get it out. Please don’t take what I say as concrete, this transition has some new aspects no one has dealt with yet. With that said I’ll be linking valid information and I hope we can keep opinions to a minimum.

Going to start adding information related to the addition of form4’s to the ATF E-Forms web site. This addition should be an improvement and shorten approval times. When form4’s were on e-forms years ago it was not uncommon to have 30-90 day approvals. Holding breath.

Matt

 

[Msowa]

NO ACTION can be taken until the web site has been updated, projected to be Dec 21st. At which time if you want to use e-form4’s, and your dealer wants to as well, you’ll need to make open an account. If using a SilencerShop Affliated dealer use the same email associated with your SilencerShop account.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/eforms-new-users-first-time-login/download

 

[Msowa]

Recent email contained the following bullet point:​

What to expect​

Once the upgrade is finished, you may notice a few changes in the eForms interface. Here's what to expect:

• ATF eForm 4 is coming back. After the upgrade, you will be able to submit the ATFForm 4 electronically through eForms.
• Electronic submission of ATF Forms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6A, 9, 10 and 5300.11 with the required electronic documents.
• Electronic submission of fingerprint cards for ATF Form 4. You will be able to attach your “digital fingerprint cards” to your submission.
• Support for larger file attachments. The updated eForms will accept electronic documents up to 30 MB in size.
• Enhanced validations to ensure that the upfront validations of your data occur prior to submission.
• User PIN for validating the submission of all forms as part of the submission process.
• Self-service support for forgotten passwords and PINs.
• Rules of behavior that must be accepted to proceed with the use of eForms.
• Rules of behavior that must be accepted to proceed with the use of eForms.
• “Ask the Expert” to send your questions to our subject matter experts.
• Use of smarter technology to improve customer service and build a foundation for future enhancements such as an Application Programming Interface (API) and Captcha.

 

[Msowa]

From SilencerShop

ATF eForms FAQs: Your Top 10 Questions Answered

Our NFA gun experts are answering your top 10 firearms questions about how to submit an eForm 1 & eform 4. ATF eForms is an electronic filing system that will eliminate paperwork and dramatically reduce your ATF wait times.

www.silencershop.com

 

[cmahoney]

This is Brandon’s biggest accomplishment


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[Anschutz]

Wait a minute, the government is doing something to improve efficiency? I've always said if the process got shorter, I'd buy a can although if I bought when I wanted one, I'd have a can by now..

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[cmahoney]

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[Geewhiz]

Sigh..... This might cost me another wad of cash.....

 

[FOS373]

I may just test the system to see if I can get a new can faster than the one that has been in jail since February......

 

[fatbacks]

Just ordered another yesterday. In the queue for e file.


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[ofl0926]

I may just test the system to see if I can get a new can faster than the one that has been in jail since February......

Same here. check was cashed Feb 26

 

[Lawnboi]

Just snuck in looks like my takedown 22 will be done via e form

 

[Schism]

I've had one form 4 submission in since April and two more for e-file. It will be interesting to see which one(s) are approved first.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the system crashes at launch and it actually takes LONGER to get the e-file approved. After all this is the same government who rolled out the Obamacare website.

 

[Anschutz]

I've had one form 4 submission in since April and two more for e-file. It will be interesting to see which one(s) are approved first.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the system crashes at launch and it actually takes LONGER to get the e-file approved. After all this is the same government who rolled out the Obamacare website.

If that happens, it could, though I doubt it, help get a Hearing Protection Act passed.

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[Msowa]

I've had one form 4 submission in since April and two more for e-file. It will be interesting to see which one(s) are approved first.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if the system crashes at launch and it actually takes LONGER to get the e-file approved. After all this is the same government who rolled out the Obamacare website.

I hear ya...I'm hopeful though. It was working ok most of the time previously till silencershop figured out how to automate their submissions and overwhelmed the site...unfortunate but it highlighted the site's weaknesses so hopefully they learned from that experience. glass half full

 

[HuntInWild88]

I like the fact you can upload your fingerprints. I kinda thought it was silly when filing my form 1's that I still had to mail my stuff in. If this speeds up the form 4s I might just have to actually purchase a suppressor instead of making it.

 

[CHSD]

This is a kick in the nuts. Literally bought a can a month ago. I guess the wait is on.

 

[actionshooter]

Thanks for the post Mr Sowa! Good info...

 

[zion zig zag]

This is a kick in the nuts. Literally bought a can a month ago. I guess the wait is on.

I got notice that my check was cashed on Dec. 5th. Gonna be pretty frustrating if people buying now get theirs first.

 

[MuleyFever]

Yeah, I put my paperwork in 3 weeks ago. Now I will probably just order another one so I have it for next season for sure.