"DOI will work with HUD to identify lands to offload for the development of affordable homes"

[2buffalo]

Estimates are there are between 11 million and 22 million illegals in the US. Estimates are the US is short 4-7 million housing units. Half the people arguing about this voted for it.

 

[Ozarkansas]

Estimates are there are between 11 million and 22 million illegals in the US. Estimates are the US is short 4-7 million housing units. Half the people arguing about this voted for it.
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So you’re saying if we deport all the illegal immigrants there will be no housing crisis, right? And This administration is cracking down hard on illegal immigration. Sounds like our housing crisis solution is well underway.

So why should we support selling off public lands?

 

[2buffalo]

So you’re saying if we deport all the illegal immigrants there will be no housing crisis, right? And This administration is cracking down hard on illegal immigration. Sounds like our housing crisis solution is well underway.

So why should we support selling off public lands?

That's exactly what I am saying. Again you voted for it then whine about the consequences. Kinda funny isn't it?

 

[Billinsd]

That's exactly what I am saying. Again you voted for it then whine about the consequences. Kinda funny isn't it?

Adios America!! That's the CORE ISSUE, however the numbers since the 50s are probably approaching 100 million. And if you consider Ted Kennedy opening up the floodgates to legal immigration in 1965, it's WELL OVER 100 MILLION. I believe we are FAR PAST critical mass!!

 

[Billinsd]

Adios America!!! This was the beginning of the end of America.

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[CoMulies]

That's exactly what I am saying. Again you voted for it then whine about the consequences. Kinda funny isn't it?

You realize people can be against illegal immigration and also want to protect public lands from development, right…? You’re painting extremely broad strokes here

 

[Billinsd]

You realize people can be against illegal immigration and also want to protect public lands from development, right…? You’re painting extremely broad strokes here

Breh! Which issue is vastly more important to you? Which political party do you support, vote for generally? All things considered equal did you vote for or against this current administration? Do you wish the other party had won the Presidency, and Congress, especially because this administration is a much bigger threat to Federal Public Lands? Bruh!

 

[Billinsd]

Crickets?

 

[2buffalo]

You realize people can be against illegal immigration and also want to protect public lands from development, right…? You’re painting extremely broad strokes here

Yes. I am one of them. What does that have to do with what I stated?

 

[CoMulies]

Breh! Which issue is vastly more important to you? Which political party do you support, vote for generally? All things considered equal did you vote for or against this current administration? Do you wish the other party had won the Presidency, and Congress, especially because this administration is a much bigger threat to Federal Public Lands? Bruh!

It’s not a one or the other issue? Deport illegal immigrants and protect public land simultaneously… any more questions?

 

[Billinsd]

It’s not a one or the other issue? Deport illegal immigrants and protect public land simultaneously… any more questions?

Deflection is your response? Not surprised. Carry on, I'm bored.

 

[CoMulies]

Yes. I am one of them. What does that have to do with what I stated?

It seems like you’re insinuating that anyone in here that was advocating for no development of public lands must have voted for those who are against deporting illegals, which is certainly not the case.. perhaps I misunderstood, so feel free to clarify if I read that wrong.

 

[CoMulies]

Deflection is your response? Not surprised. Carry on, I'm bored.

Wtf are you talking about, that was not a deflection at all. I voted for the current administration, am in favor of their stance on deportation, and am 100% against their stance on developing public land. Those things do not have to be mutually exclusive, and you don’t have to support a political platform on every single issue without thinking critically for yourself… JFC

 

[Ozarkansas]

It seems like you’re insinuating that anyone in here that was advocating for no development of public lands must have voted for those who are against deporting illegals, which is certainly not the case.. perhaps I misunderstood, so feel free to clarify if I read that wrong.

@2buffalo i thought you were saying the opposite, that people who voted for Trump “got what they voted for”, an administration unfriendly to public lands. If that’s not the case, my bad.

@Billinsd I don’t get your point. Great, we got someone in office who is tough on illegal immigration! That was sorely needed. But now, their administration is doing stuff I don’t support. I’m going to voice opposition to those things. Why on earth would you NOT oppose policies you disagree with?

 

[2buffalo]

It seems like you’re insinuating that anyone in here that was advocating for no development of public lands must have voted for those who are against deporting illegals, which is certainly not the case.. perhaps I misunderstood, so feel free to clarify if I read that wrong.

This whole thread is insinuation. If you read the EO at face value it is nothing more than researching potential solutions to the problem others have created. I stand by my statement. Are you from Colorado? If so if they deported rather than protect illegals this discussion wouldn't be happening. People get what they vote for then the rest of us have to suffer the consequences. This is fact not opinion.

 

[2buffalo]

@2buffalo i thought you were saying the opposite, that people who voted for Trump “got what they voted for”, an administration unfriendly to public lands. If that’s not the case, my bad.

@Billinsd I don’t get your point. Great, we got someone in office who is tough on illegal immigration! That was sorely needed. But now, their administration is doing stuff I don’t support. I’m going to voice opposition to those things. Why on earth would you NOT oppose policies you disagree with?

That is not what I am saying. People who voted to ship in illegals are to blame for this. If there wasn't a housing issue none of this would even be a discussion. Home prices would also be cheaper. I don't believe the numbers I stated I just pulled it off the internet. They were saying 20 million illegals 20 years ago. It is probably double that. If they weren't allowed to come in or were deported we would have a surplus of housing and housing would be cheaper. Simple fact if you voted for Biden, Harris, or any of the sanctuary city/state politicians you are the problem not the people who are looking at ways to fix it no matter what those solutions they are looking into are.

 

[Ozarkansas]

That is not what I am saying. People who voted to ship in illegals are to blame for this. If there wasn't a housing issue none of this would even be a discussion. Home prices would also be cheaper. I don't believe the numbers I stated I just pulled it off the internet. They were saying 20 million illegals 20 years ago. It is probably double that. If they weren't allowed to come in or were deported we would have a surplus of housing and housing would be cheaper. Simple fact if you voted for Biden, Harris, or any of the sanctuary city/state politicians you are the problem not the people who are looking at ways to fix it no matter what those solutions they are looking into are.

Gotcha. Okay in that case now that we have an admin that is deporting the illegals, why do we need to sell off public lands? Won’t this resolve as we clamp down on illegal immigrants?

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Gotcha. Okay in that case now that we have an admin that is deporting the illegals, why do we need to sell off public lands? Won’t this resolve as we clamp down on illegal immigrants?

Probably because of the activist judges blocking him or slowing it down.

 

[Ozarkansas]

Probably because of the activist judges blocking him or slowing it down.

But they haven’t slowed down his efforts to secure the southern border very effectively- my understanding is the border crossings have plummeted and he’s deporting 10s of thousands of illegals per month even with “activist courts”. If illegals are the cause of the housing crisis, things should be slowing down enough that we’ll see the squeeze let up.

Bottom line is that I don’t see the “housing crisis” as enough of a crisis to justify public land sell-offs. Particularly if immigration is truly the reason for current home prices.

 

[CoMulies]

This whole thread is insinuation. If you read the EO at face value it is nothing more than researching potential solutions to the problem others have created. I stand by my statement. Are you from Colorado? If so if they deported rather than protect illegals this discussion wouldn't be happening. People get what they vote for then the rest of us have to suffer the consequences. This is fact not opinion.

Great, so I did read it right. I voted to deport illegals, and now I will adamantly fight that same administration if they want to develop public land. Once again, you don’t have to agree with a political party on every issue, I promise it’s ok to use your brain and form your own opinions every now and then.