Defund the Police?

[Evol]

It really comes down to Michigan and Pennsylvania according to my understanding. Personally, I believe we will see civil war no matter the result because it has gone too far and the division is too great to mitigate. Biden wins and I believe we will see the SCOTUS re-structured with a liberal majority so they can complete the transformation of America somewhat legally.

I'm in Trump country in PA and I think that our Gov. (dem) has pissed a lot of people off and hopefully, that will push the election. I think Michigans Gov. is also getting a lot of hate for what that's worth.

My wife is totally freaked out about the whole thing and got her LTCF and started carrying when she goes out now too.

 

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Carrying is always good, especially if you have had some close quarters 'response to violence' training, good and strong pepper spray is also good to have accessible.

 

[flatlanderhuffandpuff]

All this over a drug addict, thieving, thug, felon. High on meth AND fentanyl during this incident. I say good riddance. Democrats are pushing lawlessness and mayhem. There isn’t a thing in this country that couldn’t use reform. But, what excuse is that to destroy honest people’s livelihood? This is the same response that led to the Civil War. Democrats obviously haven’t learned their lesson. Round 2? Wether you like trump or not, you better seriously consider the direction of this country without him. You want socialism?? Haul ass to Venezuela and let me know how that works out for you. That is all

This comment needs called out.

He might have been all things you said he is but he was killed having not been tried in court of law by a jury of his peers.

If you want to live in a country where the police can murder you in the streets you should move to Venezuela.

We live in a Country that has the best justice system devised by man. It has no place for vigilante justice or extrajudicial violence.

 

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This comment needs called out.

He might have been all things you said he is but he was killed having not been tried in court of law by a jury of his peers.

If you want to live in a country where the police can murder you in the streets you should move to Venezuela.

We live in a Country that has the best justice system devised by man. It has no place for vigilante justice or extrajudicial violence.

Do you believe the cops will get a fair trial locally? How about the extrajudicial violent acts that were allowed to happen via floyd 'protesters'?

There is no massive violent discrimination against blacks. Period. Unless you want the violent inner city blacks to have free reign police will need to respond to what they do daily......and some of that may have less than desirable results, just like what happened to white folks at Kent state.

 

[FLAK]

All this over a drug addict, thieving, thug, felon. High on meth AND fentanyl during this incident. I say good riddance. Democrats are pushing lawlessness and mayhem. There isn’t a thing in this country that couldn’t use reform. But, what excuse is that to destroy honest people’s livelihood? This is the same response that led to the Civil War. Democrats obviously haven’t learned their lesson. Round 2? Wether you like trump or not, you better seriously consider the direction of this country without him. You want socialism?? Haul ass to Venezuela and let me know how that works out for you. That is all

Worth saying again.

 

[flatlanderhuffandpuff]

Do you believe the cops will get a fair trial locally? How about the extrajudicial violent acts that were allowed to happen via floyd 'protesters'?

There is no massive violent discrimination against blacks. Period. Unless you want the violent inner city blacks to have free reign police will need to respond to what they do daily......and some of that may have less than desirable results, just like what happened to white folks at Kent state.

I believe the Police involved will be given as fair a trial as is possible as is their right.

I made no mention of the riots being justified.

I made no mention of the claims of systematic racism being legitimate. See post #48 to see that I made the exact opposite claim.

Are you saying the George Floyd situation could only have been resolved with his death?

Your thinking is flawed. If one person wrongs you does that give you the wrong someone else?

 

[tdhanses]

Personally I say let these liberal cities and states defund their police, be an interesting experiment to see just how much their crime rates increase but then how will we know without any to little enforcement available.

What happened to George Flyod was wrong but many more have now died in his name, I feel little progress will be made from the riots, if anything there will be more damage from it, violence is never the answer, who listens to anyone that just get in your face and yells.

 

[jmez]

Two wrongs never make a right.

 

[BeastOfTheTrees]

What happened to George Floyd is mild compared to what happens to children who are trafficked. Which has been linked to a group of elected deep state officials. Where is all the outrage for that????!!!

 

[Newtosavage]

This comment needs called out.

He might have been all things you said he is but he was killed having not been tried in court of law by a jury of his peers.

If you want to live in a country where the police can murder you in the streets you should move to Venezuela.

We live in a Country that has the best justice system devised by man. It has no place for vigilante justice or extrajudicial violence.

Thank you for that post.

People who want to blame GF for his own death, or blame the protests to distract from the cause of his death, are the same people who blame rape victims because of how they were dressed.

 

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I believe the Police involved will be given as fair a trial as is possible as is their right.

I made no mention of the riots being justified.

I made no mention of the claims of systematic racism being legitimate. See post #48 to see that I made the exact opposite claim.

Are you saying the George Floyd situation could only have been resolved with his death?

Your thinking is flawed. If one person wrongs you does that give you the wrong someone else?

For someone who is very concerned about what they 'did not say' you sure seem to be telling me what said/think even though I never said those things......

Typical.....

 

[Newtosavage]

Personally I say let these liberal cities and states defund their police, be an interesting experiment to see just how much their crime rates increase but then how will we know without any to little enforcement available.

What happened to George Flyod was wrong but many more have now died in his name, I feel little progress will be made from the riots, if anything there will be more damage from it, violence is never the answer, who listens to anyone that just get in your face and yells.

progress is already being made. We're talking about it right now. That's progress.

 

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Did floyd resist and thus set the chain of events in motion that caused his death? Would he be alive if he did not resist?

 

[Ty208]

What that cop did was BS. Point is, this is the person that’s going to be martyrized and tear this country apart???? A FELON? Know there is a black militia who says “ They are going to regulate the police by Muslim standards.” Two guys slit a cops throat screaming “Allah Akbahr”. I’ll find the article and post it later. You don’t hear much about that do you? And, I do agree, our criminal system is the best known to man. And so is our country. But, the response? All lives matter bro. Antifa has just compared themselves equals to the men on D Day. Liberators. REALLY? Fire away

 

[Mike Islander]

Did floyd resist and thus set the chain of events in motion that caused his death? Would he be alive if he did not resist?

He would be alive if that one bad cop didn't murder him.

 

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Hopefully you will be on the jury giving the cop a 'fair' trial.

 

[16Bore]

He would be alive if that one bad cop didn't murder him.

Or if 1 of the other 3 bad cops had pulled him off.

I don’t care what he was “on” drugwise. He died because of stupidity. Now his death is being exploited by the Democrats to write the biggest Christmas list prior to an election ever.

And the Dems will deliver what they always do. Zero.

It’s Lucy and Charlie Brown....

 

[Will_m]

What about if they amplified funding and raised salaries extremely high. Could significantly increase vetting process and pool of candidates would be better due to competition.

 

[Azone]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, that goes for Chauvin and Floyd. Floyd should not have been on meth passing a counterfeit 20, Chauvin has no business being in a position of authority, let alone putting his knee into that humans neck for almost nine minutes. It’s a tragedy plain and simple, Floyd may have been a addict and screw up of sorts but it doesn’t give a cop a right to choke him to death. To the f****** idiots burning OUR COUNTRY down they’re the biggest threat, beating up and killing innocent people has no place here and will solve nothing.

 

[Will_m]

Worth saying again.

I could be mistaken, but I think during that era, the party ideologies, at least towards civil rights, were the reverse of what is considered typical of each party today.