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My dream home urinal would be off the back porch..or the front....My dream home will have a urinal somewhere in it!
My dream home urinal would be off the back porch..or the front....My dream home will have a urinal somewhere in it!
I know 2 people that have them that have caused a TON of damage by leaking. I'll stick to filling my pots in the sink after their nightmares.
My dream home will have a urinal somewhere in it!
I’m positive I’m in the minority here, but be VERY careful with ICF. We are currently working on an extremely high profile job in Salt Lake City, installing huge amounts of stone on an ICF structure that a huge local company formed and poured. I’ve NEVER seen walls so out of plumb or crooked in my life. There is one wall that’s 6” out of plumb in 18 feet of vertical. The waterproofing membranes won’t adhere appropriately to the wall, and it took forever to cure, none of the corners are square, and the insulation is crumbling away. The owner has now stated that, no matter how energy efficient ICF is on paper, they’ll never use it again. I tend to agree with them, I’ll likely never use it either after watching the nightmare of this job. Some of the issues can surely be tied to poor install, but some of them seem to be inherent to the materials.
I'm rowin that boat with ya. Another issue are bugs and water.If you do go that direction, you need to vet the installer EXTREMELY well. And even then, I wouldn’t go above foundation with it. Like I said, I acknowledge I’m in the minority, but it only took me one building to write the whole system off as a gimmick. YMMV.
I know 2 people that have them that have caused a TON of damage by leaking. I'll stick to filling my pots in the sink after their nightmares.
I’m positive I’m in the minority here, but be VERY careful with ICF. We are currently working on an extremely high profile job in Salt Lake City, installing huge amounts of stone on an ICF structure that a huge local company formed and poured. I’ve NEVER seen walls so out of plumb or crooked in my life. There is one wall that’s 6” out of plumb in 18 feet of vertical. The waterproofing membranes won’t adhere appropriately to the wall, and it took forever to cure, none of the corners are square, and the insulation is crumbling away. The owner has now stated that, no matter how energy efficient ICF is on paper, they’ll never use it again. I tend to agree with them, I’ll likely never use it either after watching the nightmare of this job. Some of the issues can surely be tied to poor install, but some of them seem to be inherent to the materials.
If you do go that direction, you need to vet the installer EXTREMELY well. And even then, I wouldn’t go above foundation with it. Like I said, I acknowledge I’m in the minority, but it only took me one building to write the whole system off as a gimmick. YMMV.
100% on the install. I have been involved in the pouring of well over 500 foundations and houses built to the roof line. The concrete not curing is a concrete problem and the walls not being square and straight is an install problem. With well over 20 years I would say that ICF is well past the gimmick stage. I would be interested in what brand of ICF was used as there some that are better than others but it all falls back on the installer.I’m positive I’m in the minority here, but be VERY careful with ICF. We are currently working on an extremely high profile job in Salt Lake City, installing huge amounts of stone on an ICF structure that a huge local company formed and poured. I’ve NEVER seen walls so out of plumb or crooked in my life. There is one wall that’s 6” out of plumb in 18 feet of vertical. The waterproofing membranes won’t adhere appropriately to the wall, and it took forever to cure, none of the corners are square, and the insulation is crumbling away. The owner has now stated that, no matter how energy efficient ICF is on paper, they’ll never use it again. I tend to agree with them, I’ll likely never use it either after watching the nightmare of this job. Some of the issues can surely be tied to poor install, but some of them seem to be inherent to the materials.
If you do go that direction, you need to vet the installer EXTREMELY well. And even then, I wouldn’t go above foundation with it. Like I said, I acknowledge I’m in the minority, but it only took me one building to write the whole system off as a gimmick. YMMV.
Water is no problem at all and if you are really worried about it just grove the footing where the up rights are and when you pour the walls it will make a seal. Really want to get serious put the water barrier in the footing. Or you could add Xypex to your concrete which makes it hydrophobic but thats getting extreme. Being up north here we have never had a problem with bugs. This is the waterproofing every one uses and put on the edge of footing also provides protection from water.I'm rowin that boat with ya. Another issue are bugs and water.
I’m positive I’m in the minority here, but be VERY careful with ICF. We are currently working on an extremely high profile job in Salt Lake City, installing huge amounts of stone on an ICF structure that a huge local company formed and poured. I’ve NEVER seen walls so out of plumb or crooked in my life. There is one wall that’s 6” out of plumb in 18 feet of vertical. The waterproofing membranes won’t adhere appropriately to the wall, and it took forever to cure, none of the corners are square, and the insulation is crumbling away. The owner has now stated that, no matter how energy efficient ICF is on paper, they’ll never use it again. I tend to agree with them, I’ll likely never use it either after watching the nightmare of this job. Some of the issues can surely be tied to poor install, but some of them seem to be inherent to the materials.
If you do go that direction, you need to vet the installer EXTREMELY well. And even then, I wouldn’t go above foundation with it. Like I said, I acknowledge I’m in the minority, but it only took me one building to write the whole system off as a gimmick. YMMV.
Sounds like the installer did a $h!t job.. I've installed a lot of plumbing and none of it has leaked. Only other way leaking would occur is if someone put a screw thru piping. Having a spigot over your stove isn't any different than a bathroom or kitchen sink..
user error would be the other reason i see water damage.. It ain't hard to turn water off. if your water spigot won't turn off then you should buy a better faucet
Here’s the way my builder explained his hate for them. If a bathroom or sink faucet starts dripping through or turned on by a dang house cat down the road while homeowner is on vacation the water runs in the sink drain. With the pot filler, it’s gonna run onto your stove/cabinets/floor.
... I see 2 issues..
1) you shouldn't own a cat.
2) if you're going out of town, you should always turn off your main water supply. Yes i do it for even weekend trips
Or?My dream home urinal would be off the back porch..or the front....
No one owns a cat.... I see 2 issues..
1) you shouldn't own a cat.
2) if you're going out of town, you should always turn off your main water supply. Yes i do it for even weekend trips
Or anywhere because it sits on enough ground I don’t have neighbors?
Exactly. Why choose!Or anywhere because it sits on enough ground I don’t have neighbors?