Cliff Grays Podcast with Aaron Davidson

[JGRaider]

I’ll line up.

I own a Nexus. I had a non-GW rifle that I spend 7 years and lots of money and time DIY’ing trying to get it to shoot. My buddy said just keep shooting and you’ll get better.

I had been hunting all my life, shot way more than him, more rifles than him and had shot great with other rifles. I know I could shoot better than that.

Throughout that, I had learned about actions, barrels, cartridges, reloading, bullets, external ballistics, wind, all the things that yall bitch about.

Even before I got on this forum, I knew I could get a Tikka and it would probably shoot. I could customize, new stock, pre-fit/custom barrel, etc. I also knew I could do the same with all the pre-fit custom actions out there.

But, I didn’t want to waste my ******* time anymore. I knew I could throw all the pieces together and it may not land to where I wanted. I knew I could get a semi-custom or custom rifle and your mileage may vary.

I did my research and GW had and still has the best quality control of rifles coming off the line. And the best customer support so if I had issues. I could **** around with my rifle, try to figure out what is wrong, etc. and I do with the ammo accuracy differences, scope mounting, shooting form, etc. I reload, etc. But if it’s a rifle issue I wanted to call a guy and not have to beat my head against the wall trying to fix something with skills I didn’t have and need tools that I didn’t have either.

So, I bought a Nexus, knowing I could do what all yall do. But, when I had had enough, knowing everything yall know, I could still call a guy. Because they could build a rifle better than I could even though I knew everything yall talk about on this forum.

I bought the rifle only, wanting to do the scope mounting, ammo validation, etc.

Fist shots down range were sub half MOA with multiple factory ammo loadings. None of the BS groupings that I was seeing with that old rifle.

Not every GW customer is rich or an idiot or want to cut corners. Sometimes they know all the things roksliders do. Sometimes we just want to pay the man to do something that we know we can’t do as well.

I got to quit ******* around with a bad rifle, dev a hand load, chrono and validate my ammo, “twist my turret”, and practice. Now I’m shopping around at shooting classes because I know my limits and I’m not going to bang my head against the wall at the range trying to teach myself something when I can learn faster from someone.

Now, instead of ******* around with my rifle, I have hunts lined up for the next four years which I wasn’t prepared for and wouldn’t have lined up if I was ******* around with my rifle.

Glad I started out with a few Tikkas to learn on. I didn't find it that difficult. Glad you got it sorted out.

 

[Jhconnected]

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Glad I started out with a few Tikkas to learn on. I didn't find it that difficult. Glad you got it sorted out.

It was a mix of bad rifle and a guy advising me to keep working on it.

I considered quitting that rifle many times.

Sadly I had almost bought a Tikka before I bought that rifle.

One moral of the story, sometimes a gun won’t shoot and trust yourself to know it.

 

[JGRaider]

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It was a mix of bad rifle and a guy advising me to keep working on it.

I considered quitting that rifle many times.

Sadly I had almost bought a Tikka before I bought that rifle.

One moral of the story, sometimes a gun won’t shoot and trust yourself to know it.

Yessir. You obviously learned alot even though you got frustrated. That's still a good thing. Glad you got it sorted out the way that works for you. Kudos.

 

[chicoredneck]

Where do you draw the line? 1 yard, 2 yards, 100 yards, 1000 yards? That’s the problem. You have no right to tell me where the line is and it’s different for everyone and in every situation.

 

[RyanT26]

You should visit your nearest gun range the Saturday before the season opener. The average hunter doesn't need a $10K rifle to wound game at 800 yards, they are perfectly capable of doing it at 100 yards or less.

Now wait just a damn second here. Are you trying to tell me if I can put three rounds in a paper plate at 200 yards that doesn’t automatically mean that I’m good at 100 and 300.
Next, you will try to tell me that just holding 6 inches above the back at 500 isn't an accurate hold either!

 

[Flyjunky]

I've got no idea what your marksman capabilities are, but would you say you're much more accurate at 300 or 1000 on any given day?

300, but what’s that have to do with you implying long range shooters are wounding animals when way, way more animals are wounded under 300.

 

[MtnW]

Where do you draw the line? 1 yard, 2 yards, 100 yards, 1000 yards? That’s the problem. You have no right to tell me where the line is and it’s different for everyone and in every situation.

First are you hunting or shooting?
There are too many of Aaron’s type customers who want to shoot at 1000 yd mule deer, and elk but not put anywhere close to the amount of time in to become proficient and humane. His type is encouraging the let’s buy a 1000 yard hunting rifle.

It’s all over the internet and the outdoor channel of these goons who are filming their hunts shooting 700-1000yd plus at mule deer, elk,pronghorn, etc.. and showing their incompetency wounding these animals on their you tube channels and tv shows. Not making this sh** up. They make blasting away and wounding animals at 700 + yards and make it seem this is normal and no big deal.

These shows are not promoting shooting game at 100 yds. but instead the new long range shooting at big game animals. Sure there are plenty of bubbas who can’t make a 100yd shot, but they aren’t the ones making 100’s of you tube promotional videos , infomercials, tv shows on this long range wounding.The hype is all about shooting long range and 93% of them should be shooting at 200yds on a good day.

It sickens me watching the wounding of these majestic big game animals used as targets at long range .

 

[4cMuley]

Yes, to all of your questions. A firm yes, especially to the first question. As stated before, I know 2 guys with GW guns. Neither knows anything about them. Neither knows a thing about ballistics. Neither cares. Neither has any interest in learning the how or why. They just think they can twist the turret and kill stuff. Thats all they care about and precisely why they bought the rifle over other options. Line up their customers and I’d be willing to bet the majority are similar. Theatrics aside, THAT is their target market. The baffling part is most of you guys seem to think that’s OK.

Member when you called others “douchey” I member. More importantly, pepridge farms remembers

 

[deerhunter628]

First are you hunting or shooting?
There are too many of Aaron’s type customers who want to shoot at 1000 yd mule deer, and elk but not put anywhere close to the amount of time in to become proficient and humane. His type is encouraging the let’s buy a 1000 yard hunting rifle.

It’s all over the internet and the outdoor channel of these goons who are filming their hunts shooting 700-1000yd plus at mule deer, elk,pronghorn, etc.. and showing their incompetency wounding these animals on their you tube channels and tv shows. Not making this sh** up. They make blasting away and wounding animals at 700 + yards and make it seem this is normal and no big deal.

These shows are not promoting shooting game at 100 yds. but instead the new long range shooting at big game animals. Sure there are plenty of bubbas who can’t make a 100yd shot, but they aren’t the ones making 100’s of you tube promotional videos , infomercials, tv shows on this long range wounding.The hype is all about shooting long range and 93% of them should be shooting at 200yds on a good day.

It sickens me watching the wounding of these majestic big game animals used as targets at long range .

So are you saying all the “goons on the internet” are using Gunwerks rifles?

 

[BCDJR]

Member when you called others “douchey” I member. More importantly, pepridge farms remembers

Yep..I also think that’s in Taylor Swift’s vocabulary……maybe he picked it up watching videos?

 

[MtnW]

So are you saying all the “goons on the internet” are using Gunwerks rifles?

No . Most goons on the internet making the 800 yard wounding shots and filming themselves can’t afford GW, . Aaron has a tiny market share since his target audience is rich guys, corporate titans, trust babies who are inexperienced and want someone to cater to them when they fly up in their private jets to visit OZ.