Canada bans sale/transfer of handguns

[BDWMT]

Also included is “Mandatory assault rifle buy back” = Mandatory confiscation with non negotiable minimal compensation

This is a term we hear from many of our politicians. That isn’t coincidence. This all happens in little steps.

 

[amassi]

Which means "assault" as used by Trudeau, and others, relative to what is available to citizens is not the same thing.

The AR-15 was not designed to spray down superior fire to maneuver and destroy.

Yes it was- as was its predecessor the ar10, m14, fal etc. The main draw of the ar15 was the combat load increased from 140 rounds of 7.62 to 210 rounds of 5
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Ww2 fire supports came In the form of crew served 30 cal belt fed machine guns, artillery and mortars. It was slow and costly. The solution for the US and allies was to create a lightweight rifle that had similar firepower as the bar but could be serviced by a single gunner. Now a squad would have 13 rifles capable of establishing a sufficient amount of fire so other elements aka fireteam could maneuver and destroy.
Obviously most squads also have a crew served lightweight machine gun but the ar-15, or m16 are very capable at providing sufficient fires to suppress a determined enemy

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[BjornF16]

Yes it was- as was its predecessor the ar10, m14, fal etc. The main draw of the ar15 was the combat load increased from 140 rounds of 7.62 to 210 rounds of 5
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Ww2 fire supports came In the form of crew served 30 cal belt fed machine guns, artillery and mortars. It was slow and costly. The solution for the US and allies was to create a lightweight rifle that had similar firepower as the bar but could be serviced by a single gunner. Now a squad would have 13 rifles capable of establishing a sufficient amount of fire so other elements aka fireteam could maneuver and destroy.
Obviously most squads also have a crew served lightweight machine gun but the ar-15, or m16 are very capable at providing sufficient fires to suppress a determined enemy

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The "prototype" to the M-16 was, indeed, labeled an "AR-15". However, when adopted by the military it was known as the M-16. That original prototype "AR-15" was an automatic just like the M-16.

The semi-auto only AR-15 available to civilians today is not the same prototype that was adopted as the M-16.

When I read your post, it seems like you are equating today's AR-15 to the M-16 (and the original prototype AR-15). Given your USMC background, I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume it is merely imprecise writing. I am guilty of this at times as well...

M16 rifle | Definition, History, Parts, Diagram, Weight, & Facts | Britannica

M16 rifle, assault rifle developed as the AR-15 by American engineer Eugene Stoner of ArmaLite Inc. in the late 1950s. The rifle received high marks for its light weight, its accuracy, and the volume of fire that it could provide. The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the

www.britannica.com

 

[amassi]

The "prototype" to the M-16 was, indeed, labeled an "AR-15". However, when adopted by the military it was known as the M-16. That original prototype "AR-15" was an automatic just like the M-16.

The semi-auto only AR-15 available to civilians today is not the same prototype that was adopted as the M-16.

When I read your post, it seems like you are equating today's AR-15 to the M-16 (and the original prototype AR-15). Given your USMC background, I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume it is merely imprecise writing. I am guilty of this at times as well...

M16 rifle | Definition, History, Parts, Diagram, Weight, & Facts | Britannica

M16 rifle, assault rifle developed as the AR-15 by American engineer Eugene Stoner of ArmaLite Inc. in the late 1950s. The rifle received high marks for its light weight, its accuracy, and the volume of fire that it could provide. The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the

www.britannica.com

Jfc if that's the straw you need to grasp your being intentionally disingenuous. Quit with the semantics there's not a fairy farts difference between the ar15 and m16.
The us military hasn't had full auto m16s since the 80s yet still was capable at providing plenty of suppression with the lowely ole semi auto. When I was in the Phillipines they still had full auto m16a1 and m14s that we gifted them post vietnam, those guys had been fighting an Islamic insurgency just like us and guess what- the used semi auto. Same as we did, very effectively.

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[BjornF16]

I'm afraid ANY repeating rifle (lever, bolt, semi) will end up meeting the soon to be created ATF definition of "assault weapon" under the guise of "designed to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time” argument.

The gun control lobby's ultimate goal is to remove a person's legal ability to use a firearm as self-defense much like Europe, UK, CA, AUS, NZ have done.

Looks like Biden meet with NZ's PM...and is soliciting advice on gun control ala NZ style:

'We Need Your Guidance' — Joe Biden Meets with New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Gun Control and Online Extremism

President Joe Biden warmly welcomed New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to the White House on Tuesday.

www.breitbart.com

 

[BjornF16]

Jfc if that's the straw you need to grasp your being intentionally disingenuous. Quit with the semantics there's not a fairy farts difference between the ar15 and m16.
The us military hasn't had full auto m16s since the 80s yet still was capable at providing plenty of suppression with the lowely ole semi auto. When I was in the Phillipines they still had full auto m16a1 and m14s that we gifted them post vietnam, those guys had been fighting an Islamic insurgency just like us and guess what- the used semi auto. Same as we did, very effectively.

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Wow!

Quit with the semantics? Words have meaning...and it is always helpful to be precise.

You argue like a liberal. (I'm not saying you are a liberal...I'm just saying you argue just like one)...full of emotion, eager to attack, use of deceptive ploys (e.g. red herring, straw man, propaganda phrases).

Bottom line, you are not going to convince me (and many others) that the semi-auto AR-15 is in the same class as select fire M-4 or M-16 (or any other fully automatic rifle).

 

[FLATHEAD]

I'll trade Trudeau the 2 " assault rifles" I have for British Columbia and the NWT's. Even Steven.

 

[Wags]

Jfc if that's the straw you need to grasp your being intentionally disingenuous. Quit with the semantics there's not a fairy farts difference between the ar15 and m16.
The us military hasn't had full auto m16s since the 80s yet still was capable at providing plenty of suppression with the lowely ole semi auto. When I was in the Phillipines they still had full auto m16a1 and m14s that we gifted them post vietnam, those guys had been fighting an Islamic insurgency just like us and guess what- the used semi auto. Same as we did, very effectively.

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God I loved shooting the M14…

 

[amassi]

Wow!

Quit with the semantics? Words have meaning...and it is always helpful to be precise.

You argue like a liberal. (I'm not saying you are a liberal...I'm just saying you argue just like one)...full of emotion, eager to attack, use of deceptive ploys (e.g. red herring, straw man, propaganda phrases).

Bottom line, you are not going to convince me (and many others) that the semi-auto AR-15 is in the same class as select fire M-4 or M-16 (or any other fully automatic rifle).

You continue to use all the above ploys and yet claim that I'm doing them?
Like the saying goes, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
The ar 15 and m16 are 100% parts interchangeable. They are the same rifle. They have the same capabilities. They are the same.

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[amassi]

God I loved shooting the M14…

I wish we had them for a dmr. When we did have dmrs they were just the boring old flat top m16 with a 2.5-8 leupy.

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[eddielasvegas]

Storm's a comin'.


Eddie


P.S. I've posted the above a few times and it triggered a member a few months so my apologies in advance if I did so again. I also apologize if it hurt anyone's feelings.

 

[amassi]

Storm's a comin'.


Eddie


P.S. I've posted the above a few times and it triggered a member a few months so my apologies in advance if I did so again. I also apologize if it hurt anyone's feelings.

Just waiting on jfk junior to come back on the pale horse.

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[isItFallYet]

You continue to use all the above ploys and yet claim that I'm doing them?
Like the saying goes, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
The ar 15 and m16 are 100% parts interchangeable. They are the same rifle. They have the same capabilities. They are the same.

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They’re as similar as a 6 cylinder camaro is to a zl1 camaro.

 

[amassi]

They’re as similar as a 6 cylinder camaro is to a zl1 camaro.

Haha no they're both zl1 camaros. Or any other model you want them to be.

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[isItFallYet]

Haha no they're both zl1 camaros. Or any other model you want them to be.

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Fine, one is just missing a super charger. But 3 round burst is like tits on a bull.

 

[amassi]

Fine, one is just missing a super charger. But 3 round burst is like tits on a bull.

Full auto is far from a super charger
The difference in a mag dump is so negligible its almost Like it made perfect sense to drop full auto from the m16.

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[BjornF16]

You continue to use all the above ploys and yet claim that I'm doing them?
Like the saying goes, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
The ar 15 and m16 are 100% parts interchangeable. They are the same rifle. They have the same capabilities. They are the same.

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lol...I'm not using those ploys. If you believe that I am, give the example and name it.

Question: Are the trigger groups from semi-auto AR-15 the same as trigger group from select fire M-16?

 

[BjornF16]

Just waiting on jfk junior to come back on the pale horse.

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lol...what in the world does that even mean?

 

[amassi]

lol...I'm not using those ploys. If you believe that I am, give the example and name it.

Question: Are the trigger groups from semi-auto AR-15 the same as trigger group from select fire M-16?

Yep it is. It's even the same sear, only notched. Volt carriers can vary as well but civilians can buy "full auto" bolt carriers. Again it is irrelevant as select fire doesn't add anything to the ar15 or M16.

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[amassi]

lol...what in the world does that even mean?

Eddie believes in q- anon the great storm is the draining of the satanic cabal of pedophiles and celebrities who drink adrenochrome that was supposed to be lead by Donald Trump but he proved unworthy so now they're waiting for jfk junior to come and lead the charge( je didn't die, it was a ploy to hide him from said cabal)

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