Can you realistically fight off a 100+lb dog or are you going to lose?

[Pdzoller]

Wife and I fought two 70-80lb pits. We won but I wouldn’t say it was definitive. They wouldn’t commit to a bite and hold. They almost killed our puppy. They would bite, rip and tear and jump back. They were practically impossible to get a hold of I hit and kicked them so hard but it didn’t faze them. We were just taking a walk down the road with our puppy on a leash. Thank god the owner was able to beat them back with a shovel. Wife got a nasty scar on her arm from them. It was pretty sad seeing the owner smashing their heads in.

 

[Mr. October]

Wife and I fought two 70-80lb pits. We won but I wouldn’t say it was definitive. They wouldn’t commit to a bite and hold. They almost killed our puppy. They would bite, rip and tear and jump back. They were practically impossible to get a hold of I hit and kicked them so hard but it didn’t faze them. We were just taking a walk down the road with our puppy on a leash. Thank god the owner was able to beat them back with a shovel. Wife got a nasty scar on her arm from them. It was pretty sad seeing the owner smashing their heads in.

There are some people that just shouldn't have dogs.

 

[Beendare]

Speaking of Dog attacks, this guy Sean Lowe was attacked twice in a couple days by his 55#-ish boxer, Fox News LINK

"Bachelor" alum Sean Lowe suffered severe injuries after being attacked by his own dog twice.

Lowe, The reality TV star explained he had friends over for a barbecue when smoke from the grill in the backyard set off the fire alarm inside the house through the open windows. Lowe went inside to help turn the fire alarm off when he realized his boxer had been triggered by the sound.


"He shows his teeth at me and just attacks me," Lowe said in the video. "I don’t mean bite and then run off — like a lot of dogs do when they’re scared or defensive — I mean attacks me. I feel him ripping into the flesh of my arm, and at this point I’m doing everything I possibly can just to fend this dog off… I know I’m bleeding badly."

[the second attack]
Lowe managed to pin the dog down on the ground for 10 minutes while he waited for an ambulance.

"I’ve got a hold of his collar, but I know he’s ripped my arm open and I just know I'm fighting for my life here," he shared. "I feel like if this dog gets up, he’s going to kill me."

"It took everything I had to control this dog, and I’m 220 pounds," he continued. "If it were anyone else, he would’ve killed my children or my wife."

 

[robby denning]

Yeah... along this line how many 4th graders do you think you could take at once?

when I was in 4th grade I could maybe take one, (two if they were small girls).

At 55, I'm not even going on the playground to find out lol

 

[Jimmy]

What if you used your thumb and gouged out an eyeball?

 

[Muskykris]

i haven't read through all this but last year i was training my hound pup (75 lb full size redbone but still a pup)and we came across a massive pitbull that was clearly designed for killing. we got extremely lucky, he went for the throat and latched onto the garmin gps collar. gave it one roll and was chocking out my dog. i dove in not thinking, after beating the face off the pitty failed , the teeth slipped off the gps collar block and only had the nylon collar. i was able to undo the collar and as the pitty fell back, in a split second decision i was able to lay on my dog and protect the vitals while attempting to keep the leg damage to a minimum. legs got some holes in them, pitty was smashing his head into me trying to get at the goods.
as all this is happening i was able to give the owner the now spare collar which he could barely get on and leash which basically ended it as he barely tied the pitty to his atv.

it a was horrible i still think about, i wasn't prepared. alot of things went wrong, im glad it was raining that day and left my 7 year old at home.

if there was ever a next time i would dead pitbull.

but to answer the OPs question, no weapon and its rage focused on me, i likely woulda been fu(ked.
maybe if i wasnt caught off gaurd and was trained in defence of some sort

 

[blksno]

I think I'm gonna agree with the consensus, that a 100lb dog is gonna cause plenty of stitches, but it shouldn't be too much work. HOWEVER.
I've done my best to play wrestle my Dogos (105 and 110lbs) and I'm 240. It takes every bit of effort to hold them down (without intentionally trying to hurt them)

I tell people all the time, if you see this coming for you...don't run, you'll just die tired.
Clearly I say this in jest...but fact of the matter. Dogos are pure athletes with very little in self preservation instincts, and both the will and tools make you question your life choices if you happen to enter the wrong house. They might not be able to break tibia and fibula...but they would have no problem snapping the forearm of an adult male.



But pure sweet hearts

 

[timekiller13]

You guys should see what a dog does to a child.

I don’t give a damn how well mannered or well trained you think your dog is, keep them away from children.

I’ve seen things dogs have done that have made me break down and cry like a little baby.

 

[Thread Savage]

I’ve got a big male German Shepherd who came from a Czech line of police and military dogs. I bought him with the intention of training him out into a finished security dog, but thankfully I aborted that mission very early. He’s a calm, docile house pet, but I’ll tell you this- my son (who is 6’1” 280) can get him all hyped up and tugging on toys, and the dog can pull him around the living room. The dog is only about 95 pounds, but he’s always got four wheels on the pavement.

I’ve thought about this a LOT. If this same dog were trained to hurt me, he’d rip away big hunks of muscle. I think I’d ultimately survive, but only because I’d be offering up my own tricep or a calf as a treat to distract him basically.

I’ve also rough housed with several Pitbulls, and they’re even more absurdly powerful. I’d probably rather tangle with a big Shepherd than a Pitbull if I had to choose.

Anyhoo, my answer is: a reasonably healthy adult man would not likely get KILLED by a 100 pound dog, but I also don’t see any way you’d WIN the fight without a weapon. The dog is going to instantly disable one muscle group, so you might as well figured you’re starting the fight as a one-legged or one-armed man.

 

[Thread Savage]

What if you used your thumb and gouged out an eyeball?

Then your free arm will get eaten by a cyclops dog, but eaten nonetheless.

 

[highcountrymuley]

So I asked earlier with no reply: anyone ever hear of the defense of grabbing inside both front legs and pulling apart so that scapulae would sever spinal cord? My friend with large Rott suggested to do this if attacked by a dog.

 

[waspocrew]

Yeah, I'm gonna say the 100# dog is going to win the fight against me.

 

[Huntndog]

You guys should see what a dog does to a child.

I don’t give a damn how well mannered or well trained you think your dog is, keep them away from children.

I’ve seen things dogs have done that have made me break down and cry like a little baby.

I want to second this . At every obedience training pickup I assemble the people who are getting their dogs and go over some dog behavior points and explain what I have done. Without exception I say that under no circumstances do we EVER leave a dog unattended around a tiny infant human. I was saying this one day to several people and a man stopped me and thanked me. Then he said “ I am a face surgeon at UK med center. Not one shift goes by that I don’t sew a child’s face back together.” He said most bites occur from people’s own dog - especially when a child blows in its face.

 

[Muskykris]

You guys should see what a dog does to a child.

I don’t give a damn how well mannered or well trained you think your dog is, keep them away from children.

I’ve seen things dogs have done that have made me break down and cry like a little baby.

Hate to hear this

 

[Huntndog]

So I asked earlier with no reply: anyone ever hear of the defense of grabbing inside both front legs and pulling apart so that scapulae would sever spinal cord? My friend with large Rott suggested to do this if attacked by a dog.

That would be incredibly difficult, require an insane amount of strength and dexterity, all while having your face by his face.
No way. When I was attacked I was lucky to get my arm up to protect my face and throat in time. He shredded that forearm anyway. The picture I posted earlier in this thread is after it was lightly stitched. It was hanging in pieces before that. I was very lucky to be able to use a kennel door as a weapon to keep slamming him until he was bloody and hurt enough to retreat.

I had a gun ,but it’s kind of hard to draw with an 80 pound mal munching on your shooting arm.
For all of those who are trying to imagine how you would fare ,consider that you may not have time to see it coming. It’s like being sucker punched. Also, trust me , it happens faster than you can imagine. From the time the attack started on me until I had him corralled I estimate 4 seconds passed.
If a 100 pound determined dog attacks you , you may survive but you WILL be seriously injured.

 

[Plague]

One big mutt? It's gonna suck.

Pack of big mutts? You die screaming.


I've personally seen Pyrenees shred their enemies and it's a bit of Hell ya! and a bit of thank God that wasn't me.

We have a Pyrenees live stock guardian. I second this whole heartedly. Does his job terrifyingly well.

 

[COLD SMOKE]

When I was younger i spent some good time traveling in the Himalayas ( sikkim, Bhutan, Nepal) hiking into remote villages to explore. in Bhutan I came across 2 temples that had Tibetan mastiffs chained with irons to posts you have to walk past them to enter the temple. This was in both deep paro valley and another valley close by , Haa valley.

The Mastiffs they can’t reach you because of the chains but they are fierce. And are snapping at the iron chain trying to bite you .. going crazy. Idk if it was because I was a foreigner or if they were this pisswd with everyone but it was terrifying.

The monks turn them lose at night to keep off snow leopards , bears, whatever other predators are in the mtns. These temples are way off the path no roads you have to walk in mikes on dirt trails.

They are huge easily 130+ lbs. way bigger than an a big Anatolian LGD. thick dirty coats with blood and excrement dried on them, they smell terrible and 2 ( they chained them in pairs ) of them would overpower just about any human I can think of.
If you’ve never seen one here’s a domesticated one size comparison to a regular 70 lb dog.

They eat apparently animal feces, bones. leftovers from the temple, carcasses and whatever animals they can kill.

Sky burial is the funerary rites in this part of the world.
and I’m sure they have gotten into leftover human remains.

I have no idea who chains and unchains them apparently one of the monks who raised them.

In my opinion They would ragdoll any domesticated dog quickly. And I think they would overwhelm a majority % of unarmed humans.

 

[left field]

Breed and train working German shepherds. No weapons it would be very difficult if not impossible to defeat a properly trained dog over 50ish pounds. Just a big mean dog your chances go up significantly. You are still gonna be injured

I also trained protection and sport dogs - Mondio and French Ringsport, and PSA. I was a decoy for Mondie and PSA. I have been bitten by a lot of dogs. A particularly assholey Malinois in Mexico opened my face and cost me a tooth.

The biggest challenge is that most people have an instinctual fear of dog bites. That will get you in a lot of trouble as the dog will react to your awkward body language. I have diffused aggressive dogs simply by remaining calm. I have also made dogs bite me just from a look.

It helps to be able to read a dog.

Most dogs will not bite you, however (I'm making this up), if you have to deal with a serious dog coming in, I would try and distract him with a piece of clothing, A jacket waved in front of him could be enough to get him to bite the material and that may diffuse the situation.

The other option, if you feel you're going to be bitten is to wrap the jacket and around your arm and feed it to him and then flip around his back with your legs on each side. You will be able to get some control this way. If you can handle the pain then jam his mouth - dogs cannot bite if you grab their lower jaw - and when he releases grab as much scruff as you can and pull back to more or less immobilize him. Eventually he will calm.

If he refuses to let go, then you have to get medieval on him. Hard as you can, life and death, you're going to scoop his eye out with your thumb. A dog locked into drive will not feel much pain, but no one can take pressure in the eye.

Coming from the working dog world would you rather take the 50 lb Mali who loves it or the real molassers, old neos, boerboels etc?

Our club was known for training a lot of molossers and I saw many of the early Corsos, Presas, Bandogs, Boerboels, and new breeds like Donovan Pinschers; as well as Malinois, Dutch Shepherds, and GSDs.

The only dog to knock me down on a long send was a 45 lb Donovan Pinscher. Speed matters. The early Corsos and Presas were shitty. Poor nerves. Boerboels were athletic, but not great.

I don't think there was a Neo I couldn't outrun.

I would say that the only dogs that scared the shit out of me were LGDs from Eastern Europe and Asia.

 

[Sierra Hunter]

I also trained protection and sport dogs - Mondio and French Ringsport, and PSA. I was a decoy for Mondie and PSA. I have been bitten by a lot of dogs. A particularly assholey Malinois in Mexico opened my face and cost me a tooth.

The biggest challenge is that most people have an instinctual fear of dog bites. That will get you in a lot of trouble as the dog will react to your awkward body language. I have diffused aggressive dogs simply by remaining calm. I have also made dogs bite me just from a look.

It helps to be able to read a dog.

Most dogs will not bite you, however (I'm making this up), if you have to deal with a serious dog coming in, I would try and distract him with a piece of clothing, A jacket waved in front of him could be enough to get him to bite the material and that may diffuse the situation.

The other option, if you feel you're going to be bitten is to wrap the jacket and around your arm and feed it to him and then flip around his back with your legs on each side. You will be able to get some control this way. If you can handle the pain then jam his mouth - dogs cannot bite if you grab their lower jaw - and when he releases grab as much scruff as you can and pull back to more or less immobilize him. Eventually he will calm.

If he refuses to let go, then you have to get medieval on him. Hard as you can, life and death, you're going to scoop his eye out with your thumb. A dog locked into drive will not feel much pain, but no one can take pressure in the eye.



Our club was known for training a lot of molossers and I saw many of the early Corsos, Presas, Bandogs, Boerboels, and new breeds like Donovan Pinschers; as well as Malinois, Dutch Shepherds, and GSDs.

The only dog to knock me down on a long send was a 45 lb Donovan Pinscher. Speed matters. The early Corsos and Presas were shitty. Poor nerves. Boerboels were athletic, but not great.

I don't think there was a Neo I couldn't outrun.

I would say that the only dogs that scared the shit out of me were LGDs from Eastern Europe and Asia.

Those CAOs are next level!

 

[Misawa]

As an ER nurse I've seen a few bites, unfortunately the worst ones are usually a family dog that gets ahold of a lip or cheek. The skin there is so fragile. I couldn't imagine if an enraged 100lb dog got you there. Police K9 bites are usually focused on forearms or calves so they leave good size holes but it only gets really nasty if the tendons get pulled apart when the dog is tugging on em. K9 Dexter had quite the reputation around here for just that