Backstop Recoil Pad

[Matt5266]

Ya seems very gimmicky. I'll stick with limbsaver. I highly doubt it's any better at all.

 

[Bitterbrush]

I just ordered one to try on a relatively lightweight 300 WSM. I personally like Jim's channel and am a bit of gear nut so why not try something new, support someone who promotes hunting and shooting and seems to be a good family guy while doing it? The recoil pad might just turn out to be great!

 

[goatsie]

I finally got to the range to test these out in my 7PRC and 22 Creedmoor. Overall I think it is a great upgrade to the HNT26. Felt recoil is so difficult to quantify and accurately compare, but I did feel a marked improvement after adding the backstop. I did notice as others have mentioned that the structuring does capture and hold quite a bit of dirt.
I will really start putting it through its paces soon in the back country!

 

[hardincobucks]

I finally got to the range to test these out in my 7PRC and 22 Creedmoor. Overall I think it is a great upgrade to the HNT26. Felt recoil is so difficult to quantify and accurately compare, but I did feel a marked improvement after adding the backstop. I did notice as others have mentioned that the structuring does capture and hold quite a bit of dirt.
I will really start putting it through its paces soon in the back country!
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How do you like the coup de Grace??

 

[goatsie]

How do you like the coup de Grace??

It is an awesome action! Best bang for the buck out right now in my opinion. It is so feature rich for that price point!

 

[tpicou]

You make a valid point about the data. That bothered me too when I watched the video, but I am a chemist so I realize I’m already prone to nerdom and questioning data. Nonetheless, he’s got my attention. If he comes out with a pad that fits the XLR carbon buttstock, I’ll likely try it for my lightweight 7saum.

Just watched the video. It’s really annoying that he doesn’t use units in his graphs. That being said, people talk about stuff here (like stock design etc) while showing zero actual data (no accelerometers, no pressure sensors, no nothing) so it’s kind of hard to knock him for that?

 

[TaperPin]

How much does a recoil pad actually flex/compress during a shot? With all the high speed cameras capturing all sorts of firearm related stuff, I can’t find a single video or frame grab showing actual compression of any recoil pad by any company.

 

[Elite]

Wondering if anyone has real world use of this pad yet? Looking for a lightweight option for my tikka


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[Leaf Litter]

Wondering if anyone has real world use of this pad yet? Looking for a lightweight option for my tikka


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I've used one extensively this summer on a heavy recoiling Tikka. Spend half the money (or less) on a Limbsaver AirTech pad, they work better than the more expensive backstop.

 

[ZCoastie]

I picked one of these up and have only 15 or so rounds with it. I have it on my Bergara B14 ridge carbon wilderness in 300winmag. Those rounds were at a range just getting it sighted in and some fun shots. I have no comparison to anything other than the stock pad but it's definitely an improvement. Below are my very super scientific initial impressions.

• I didn't notice any shoulder soreness or sharpness in impact compared to the stock one. It felt like it didn't hit as hard or was more prolonged like it built up then ramped down vs a huge hit. A noticeable change in feel, I think for the better.
• What was markedly improved was being able to reacquire the target and spot my impact. That was a very noticeable positive change.
• Fit and Finish - You can tell its a 3d printed item. Not necessarily a bad thing though just doesn't have that super refined machined type impression. But there's no rough edges or things that make it feel incomplete or rushed, in that regard it's totally fine.
• Worth the cost? For me so far, yes it is. I have never used a limbsaver or anything other than the stock pad so my comparison isn't much. But for an item under $100, I don't sweat that cost much compared to something in the $50 range for example.
• For Jim himself - I can see the snake-oil/salesey type impressions based on his delivery, but he is a solid dude and he is truly passionate about what he delivers. I do trust anything he puts out he does believe in and not just going for a quick money grab.

 

[SwampThing0331]

If anyone is looking for another HNT26 option, OBI has been producing a similar one for a while now. I don’t have experience with the backstop, but the OBI Cush Pad has been a huge upgrade over the MDT. It’s quite a bit less expensive too.

 

[CoMtnMike]

So I received mine today and wanted to give some first impressions. I won’t be able to shoot for a few more weeks, but wanted to provide my initial thoughts.
-Shipping was quick! I placed an order and was told I would get them mid February, but they arrived three weeks prior to that.
-Upon receiving the packaging seems very “Etsy”…it is nice but doesn’t really stick with their high tech solution to recoil theme.
-Quality video instructions of installation are provided
- Fitment is perfect, to me this is the current best option for the HNT26.
-The recoil pads feel VERY 3D printed, I am a little worried about how they will hold up. I could also see the lattice structure getting filled with dirt when shooting prone.
- everything feels just barely unfinished, like edges pictured. I realize this is due to the limitations of 3D printing used. Once you accept it for what it is, it feels overall well made.
- I am overall satisfied with the purchase, however, I hope to be even more impressed with the function!
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I'm curious, since you got them for very different calibers - could you actually feel a difference in them with your hands? If you put the 22CM pad on the 7PRC would it be less effective? Just curious how much custom per caliber and gun weight and muzzle device customization there really is... Or are they pretty much the same for your 2? I mean it logically the idea makes sense to design per those factors to reduce impulse, but to do it accurately for real it would require a huge sample of rifle weights per caliber and with/without muzzle device etc. A rough spectrum might still be useful , but not as custom as they claim. And how did it perform this fall? I mean if not so custom and not much better than limbsaver I'll save my money; but open to the idea it is actually better...

 

[bojangles808]

If anyone is looking for another HNT26 option, OBI has been producing a similar one for a while now. I don’t have experience with the backstop, but the OBI Cush Pad has been a huge upgrade over the MDT. It’s quite a bit less expensive too.

I also got an obi cush pad in their black Friday sale. seems like a much better option for the price over the backfire pad

 

[OldPete]

Looking forward to reading feedback on here. Getting burnt out on looking to YouTube for honest reviews. To many shills or folks looking to get views.

 

[nagibson1]

This was intended as a reply to Jimh406, but I didn’t hit the reply button on my phone.

Almost everything Backfire presents on the YouTube channel is clickbait stuff that I’ve heard a thousand times without well thought-out testing to evaluate whether or not it is true. It’s just self confirmation of preexisting biases. For examples, where do I start? Scope evaluations by tossing them in his pool, focusing on large controlled expansion bullets without evaluating wound channels under real world condition (i.e. low velocity impacts and wound volume versus penetration), and focusing on energy as a measuring stick for cartridge selection. All that just points to a general misunderstanding of ballistics and a rehashing of old dogma without any new additions. I also think his take on high shoulder shots should have taken into consideration common shooting errors in field conditions and the potential downsides of that shot. I honestly unsubscribed a while back because I felt that watching his videos didn’t add anything for me.

As for the recoil pad, I think it’s a case of math overload. Is a squishy pad comfy? Sure. But there are other squishy pads that don’t cost $90. And aren’t you better off putting your $90 into changing stock ergonomics which affects felt recoil, the direction of the recoil, and your ability to stay on target? You do that by raising the buttpad and the comb, which this doesn’t address. And finally who wants to deal with a recoil pad that needs a separate protector that I would probably lose? That just says he’s way more OCD than I will ever be.

is there a source you'd recommend on real world recoil mitigation, esp relative to the stock? I generally agree about Backfire. Drama makes channels more than relaxed advise.

 

[ElPollo]

is there a source you'd recommend on real world recoil mitigation, esp relative to the stock? I generally agree about Backfire. Drama makes channels more than relaxed advise.

Not really, other than the early development portion of the RokStok thread. Basically, the higher the butt in relation to the bore, the more straight-line your recoil impulse is. The direction of the impulse determines muzzle rise. Recoil is about more than just your shoulder. A stock that is poorly designed will feel like it has more recoil because it is going to move upward and fighting against your efforts to stay on target. I think there is a place for good recoil pads, but they won’t fix bad stock ergonomics or shooter form.